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09/05/07 16:02
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 		 #144049 - simple, you do not know it is there
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Given that the ICE manufacturer has little more than, perhaps, a bond-out version of the same MCU to use in his hardware, in order to stay in sync with the target hardware, how does the ICE do anything that a monitor doesn't do? Isn't it simply substituting ICE-local RAM for the target's ROM?

if you have a monitor, your memory map is screwed up and some interrupt is scrtewed up and ... is screwed up.

With an ICE none such

Erik


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What are your favorite debugging tools?            01/01/70 00:00      
   The Brains            01/01/70 00:00      
      The brain is a valuable tool, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hardware issues with LPC chips            01/01/70 00:00      
            but they do have self-rewriteable FLASH...            01/01/70 00:00      
               That isn't much of a help in debugging            01/01/70 00:00      
                  why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CAUTION!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        trace in monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                           but how do you generate the interrupt?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              trace, limited resources            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 We're in different situations, I suppose.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    tracing and simple stepping...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       no good            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          this is where you lose me ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             simple, you do not know it is there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                we have been discussing this many times            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Ave you ever looked at a "bondout" version?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      for a plain static code breakpoint...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      I do not know, and neither care, but they do!            01/01/70 00:00      
      %$#@! double-post ... sorry!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Selection of tools            01/01/70 00:00      
      Crash Barrier E5            01/01/70 00:00      
         LPT revisited            01/01/70 00:00      
            Dongle            01/01/70 00:00      
   printf()            01/01/70 00:00      
   my absolute favorite and an answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes, but is it really worth the money?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I know of no ICE that uses .lst files            01/01/70 00:00      
            now you know            01/01/70 00:00      
               try phrasing it differently            01/01/70 00:00      
   Will call Acqura            01/01/70 00:00      
      metalink            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, I have used it many times            01/01/70 00:00      
   an extra port pin and some serial out code            01/01/70 00:00      

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