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09/05/07 19:23
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#144059 - I do not know, and neither care, but they do!
Responding to: ???'s previous message
How, exactly, would you guess that they do that? What kind of technology would they use to operate fast enough, yet stay in sync with a target system?
I do not know, and neither do I care, but they do!

Certainly JTAG is utterly incapable of "real-time" anything, since a typical MCU can execute several instructions within one bit-time on the JTAG cable
who gives a ...., the JTAG is only active when the uC is stopped.

Have you ever looked inside an ICE ... a "real" one, with a bondout chip? Have you ever looked at the datasheet for a bondout chip, e.g. the one from Winbond? How do you suppose they do anything at all in real time (meaning at the rate at which the target operates) when emulating on a "real" core?
I do not know, and neither do I care, but they do!

Erik




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What are your favorite debugging tools?            01/01/70 00:00      
   The Brains            01/01/70 00:00      
      The brain is a valuable tool, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hardware issues with LPC chips            01/01/70 00:00      
            but they do have self-rewriteable FLASH...            01/01/70 00:00      
               That isn't much of a help in debugging            01/01/70 00:00      
                  why?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     CAUTION!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        trace in monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                           but how do you generate the interrupt?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              trace, limited resources            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 We're in different situations, I suppose.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    tracing and simple stepping...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       no good            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          this is where you lose me ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             simple, you do not know it is there            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                we have been discussing this many times            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Ave you ever looked at a "bondout" version?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      for a plain static code breakpoint...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      I do not know, and neither care, but they do!            01/01/70 00:00      
      %$#@! double-post ... sorry!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Selection of tools            01/01/70 00:00      
      Crash Barrier E5            01/01/70 00:00      
         LPT revisited            01/01/70 00:00      
            Dongle            01/01/70 00:00      
   printf()            01/01/70 00:00      
   my absolute favorite and an answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes, but is it really worth the money?            01/01/70 00:00      
         I know of no ICE that uses .lst files            01/01/70 00:00      
            now you know            01/01/70 00:00      
               try phrasing it differently            01/01/70 00:00      
   Will call Acqura            01/01/70 00:00      
      metalink            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, I have used it many times            01/01/70 00:00      
   an extra port pin and some serial out code            01/01/70 00:00      

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