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10/22/07 14:03
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#146009 - a much better idea
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Please see If we can use shielded cable and Ground at one side of the circuit board.

a much better idea

twisted pair where one side is ground makes (virtually) no difference, in effect, you get a "shielded wire with an imprefect shield".

For direct connection uC Txd to uC RxD there are many problems except when both are in the same enclosure
a) as we all know "ground is not ground" and the ground diffrence between unit a and unit b can create havoc in the transimission and - in a bad case - blow uC pins.
b) your baudrate will be severely limited since you are relying on a rsistive pullup of a a signal loaded by cable capaitance.
c) I, personally, refuse to let uC pins leave the board

A 'cheap' method allowing a limited baudrate would be to use a buffer chip (e.g. a '126) for TxD and a schmitt (such as 2 HC14s in series for the RxD. OR - use an inverting buffer/driver and just one HC14

Erik


List of 27 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
UART Maximum            01/01/70 00:00      
   Baud rate ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Baud            01/01/70 00:00      
   RS232?            01/01/70 00:00      
      100m on 4800 BPS            01/01/70 00:00      
         How?            01/01/70 00:00      
            true RS232            01/01/70 00:00      
   you do not say how            01/01/70 00:00      
      a) ----- option only            01/01/70 00:00      
         Twisted Pair            01/01/70 00:00      
            He would not be THAT ignorant, I hope            01/01/70 00:00      
         a much better idea            01/01/70 00:00      
            Assumption            01/01/70 00:00      
               a much better idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                  WRONG            01/01/70 00:00      
                     panacea ---> The Godess of all cure :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                        of course, you need to connect gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
                           ground problem isnt a problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Call a spade a spade...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              no, it is not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Differential            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    no, it is not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Oh yes it is!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       since you control both ends ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Minimum RS422/485            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             mimum length for 485/422            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Thanks for the input to all            01/01/70 00:00      

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