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02/02/08 19:55
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#150233 - statistical probability
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Nobody asked you, Erik, but, of course, you had to spout on anyway.
which begs the question "since nobody asked you, why did you sprout on?"

phone calls that told you that your circuit had to be power-cycled twice in order to get it to start it seemed to work because the phone calls stopped coming.
1) we have tens of thousands of these out there
2) the phone calls were not "random" but mainly from our most demanding customers.
3) the typical customer will have between 10 and 500 units, our most demanding customer has several hundereds.
4) It was not necessary to call these customers, from other expreience, I know they would have called again if the problem had not disappeared
5) thus the statistical probabilty of the solution being correct is aboiut 99.99%. Of course, you are going to come back and harp on the percentage, go ahead, I'll ignore that.

Then, when asked how the problem was addressed, your response amounted to, "well, my original circuit didn't work right, so I designed another one
Adding a proper supervisor to $100 worth of other components is hardly "designed another one". Had I made other changes at the same time, I could not argue that adding the supervisor was the solution.

Your only observations were those phone calls, and your solution was to slap together a different circuit
reasoning about what heppens at power on and drawing a conclusion, then implementing it, is hardly "slap together a different circuit".

I appreciate that doing anything that I do not do Richards way makes me a bungling amateur, so be it.

Once again everybody, except you have realized that a proper supervisor is mandatory for flash based circuits.

Erik

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TopicAuthorDate
C8051F340 Flash corruption problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   use an open collector supervisor ana a pullup            01/01/70 00:00      
   No problem on my end            01/01/70 00:00      
      Grant, can you confirm            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not at this time            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it's a 4k7 pullup            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why do you believe it's going awry during powerup?            01/01/70 00:00      
      likelyhoods            01/01/70 00:00      
         This is funny!            01/01/70 00:00      
            statistical probability            01/01/70 00:00      
               So you conclude that the world is flat?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  who on earth in his right mind would do that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     someone who is curious about RESET.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        8051f12x/f13x            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It's not that simple ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I have a paid job            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Indeed you have            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    if 1 million people get sick ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It ain't necessarily so            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          3 things you did not respond to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             that's not how it works            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                it his not 'details'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   What does "works" mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
   SiLabs view on this issue            01/01/70 00:00      
      re a point            01/01/70 00:00      
         I am reading some interesting discussion            01/01/70 00:00      
            AP, yes, Richard read that all say the same.            01/01/70 00:00      
            That means NO??            01/01/70 00:00      
               HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Qazi Please provide some details            01/01/70 00:00      
   flash corruption or write failure            01/01/70 00:00      
      answer to quiz!            01/01/70 00:00      

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