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02/02/08 21:35
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#150235 - So you conclude that the world is flat?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
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Your only observations were those phone calls, and your solution was to slap together a different circuit

reasoning about what heppens at power on and drawing a conclusion, then implementing it, is hardly "slap together a different circuit".

Reasoning is how the ancients decided that the world was flat.

I appreciate that doing anything that I do not do Richards way makes me a bungling amateur, so be it.

Perhaps not, but it surely suggests you're being sloppy.

Once again everybody, except you have realized that a proper supervisor is mandatory for flash based circuits.

apparently it's not helpful to have one with external memory, as the supervisor-generated reset doesn't prevent the corruption and signal activity I observed with the Philips, Intel, and AMD parts.

Erik


One of these days I'll get around to fooling with 805x issues again. I'll get some pictures and precisely monitor the voltage levels as Vcc decays. The observations I made in the past were ad-hoc, hence not sufficiently rigorous to provide any reliable information. They were enough to pique my interest, though. They involve the core reason for my decades-long avoidance of post-8048 Intel processors. I've always believed that positive reset was a mistake. That's why I've never voluntarily used an Intel MCU or CPU with positive reset in a customer's application.
Occasionally I have to, but not of my own free will.

RE





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TopicAuthorDate
C8051F340 Flash corruption problem            01/01/70 00:00      
   use an open collector supervisor ana a pullup            01/01/70 00:00      
   No problem on my end            01/01/70 00:00      
      Grant, can you confirm            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not at this time            01/01/70 00:00      
         Yes, it's a 4k7 pullup            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why do you believe it's going awry during powerup?            01/01/70 00:00      
      likelyhoods            01/01/70 00:00      
         This is funny!            01/01/70 00:00      
            statistical probability            01/01/70 00:00      
               So you conclude that the world is flat?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  who on earth in his right mind would do that?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     someone who is curious about RESET.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        8051f12x/f13x            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It's not that simple ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I have a paid job            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Indeed you have            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    if 1 million people get sick ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It ain't necessarily so            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          3 things you did not respond to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             that's not how it works            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                it his not 'details'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   What does "works" mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
   SiLabs view on this issue            01/01/70 00:00      
      re a point            01/01/70 00:00      
         I am reading some interesting discussion            01/01/70 00:00      
            AP, yes, Richard read that all say the same.            01/01/70 00:00      
            That means NO??            01/01/70 00:00      
               HUH?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Qazi Please provide some details            01/01/70 00:00      
   flash corruption or write failure            01/01/70 00:00      
      answer to quiz!            01/01/70 00:00      

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