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02/11/08 20:30
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 		 #150617 - it does not matter 'how long'
Responding to: ???'s previous message
If you have not used this IDE, then how would you know how long it takes to learn how to use it. It's a very simple program to use

It does not matter 'how long', the issue is two things at the same time

what if a mistake is made in this "very simple program" how is a noob to know that that is where the mistake is.

Get througth making the mistakes (and learning from them) with one thing before getting througth making mistakes with something else.

If the OP want to learn an IDE, OK, but then learn that using 'sample code' before dabbling writing code.

Erik

PS from your post I get the impression that what you recommend is assembly only, I would consider that a severe limitation. It really makes a lot of unlearning needed when C is introduced.

PPS who cares about Metalink support, it has been bug free for years.

List of 44 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
LCD in 4Bit mode trouble            01/01/70 00:00      
   For a start            01/01/70 00:00      
   How to post source code            01/01/70 00:00      
   HD44780 in 4 bit mode timings            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks, but still doesnt work            01/01/70 00:00      
         Tied lines            01/01/70 00:00      
            RW line tied to GND            01/01/70 00:00      
               R/W is tied to ground by hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
               have a look at this in code library            01/01/70 00:00      
            It worked!            01/01/70 00:00      
               It worked!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  d0-d3            01/01/70 00:00      
                     d0-d3 I still insist they should be left open !            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Proof            01/01/70 00:00      
                           They already have internal pullups            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Where ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Please find the " Pull-up MOS " in the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I never insisted ont tieing them            01/01/70 00:00      
   can\'t help it            01/01/70 00:00      
      Noritake            01/01/70 00:00      
         Noritake            01/01/70 00:00      
            'life' for as long as it lasts            01/01/70 00:00      
               Please provide the datasheet part info            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I do not have it            01/01/70 00:00      
   I never insisted ont tieing them            01/01/70 00:00      
      Powertip - pc1602f            01/01/70 00:00      
   2 more things            01/01/70 00:00      
   I am getting 50\'000Hrs , with 80Cd/m2 , they            01/01/70 00:00      
   I work in 4 bit mode            01/01/70 00:00      
      All that code reduces to:            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks by the code size reduction            01/01/70 00:00      
            Tools            01/01/70 00:00      
               sure, but why            01/01/70 00:00      
                  time for a new thread...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Free IDE            01/01/70 00:00      
               it does not make sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ops,,, Topic changes!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     one thing at a time            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Why bin file and not hex directly            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: it does not make sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it does not matter 'how long'            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not recommending anything            01/01/70 00:00      
         The swap command should not exist !!?            01/01/70 00:00      

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