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11/22/05 14:29
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#103994 - well, now you have both
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I stated what RS232 does not specify, Jan stated what it does specify and you even have 2 suggestions for what to call your stuff.

you have a full discussion of the pitfalls and pratfalls of non-transciever 232 read here
http://www.8052.com/forum/read.phtml?id=85349

http://www.keil.com/discuss/docs/thread5471.htm refer to a non- transciever interface that someone ask "why does it not work" and Andy read it and stated:
Note that the web page you cited says,

"... allow most applications to run without level converters" (my emphasis).

If you want something that you know will work, rather than just hoping that "most" of the time is good enough, you must use a proper RS232 transceiver.

as I said above: "you will likely have a surprise when you replace the PC"

Erik

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Home System            01/01/70 00:00      
   X10 ?            01/01/70 00:00      
   1-Wire?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Multiprocessor communcations            01/01/70 00:00      
   home system            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another Maxim - HomePlug            01/01/70 00:00      
   Simple RS232 multidrop            01/01/70 00:00      
      a dangerous approach            01/01/70 00:00      
         NOT dangerous if you read properly            01/01/70 00:00      
            So it's NOT RS232, then            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ohhh No! ..... Not RS232?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That you get by with violating the stand            01/01/70 00:00      
                     To RS232 or not to RS232            01/01/70 00:00      
                        well, now you have both            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No Trick            01/01/70 00:00      
                  That's what I said!            01/01/70 00:00      
            dont take it personally            01/01/70 00:00      
               I won't            01/01/70 00:00      
                  on reliability etc.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     true, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        time is $$$            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not bible!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        "bible" - Read, not memorise!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Jeff, grow some skin!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Paid help            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Oh I am grateful            01/01/70 00:00      
               Indeed            01/01/70 00:00      
                  If this is a "put down" then I must need            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Blah blah blah            01/01/70 00:00      
                        flamewars, episode 3            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Toys !            01/01/70 00:00      
                     slobodan            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Arrogance            01/01/70 00:00      
                           totally misunderstood            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It's here            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 sorry, I do not have ESP            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    How would that help?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Long distances            01/01/70 00:00      
      Questions about your Multi MPU comm.            01/01/70 00:00      
         UART Mode 3            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: El-cheapo home network            01/01/70 00:00      
               as dangerous and noise prone as the othe            01/01/70 00:00      
                  not "open air"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     well, I missed that, sorry            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ring protection            01/01/70 00:00      
         More info M.I.N.E.S.T.O.N.Y. Comms :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
      You must lead a very quiet life            01/01/70 00:00      
         Don't get personal            01/01/70 00:00      
      may be dangerous            01/01/70 00:00      
         RS485            01/01/70 00:00      
            RS485 addendum            01/01/70 00:00      
               RS485 only specifies the media            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Multiprocessor Mode            01/01/70 00:00      
                     comments/clrafications            01/01/70 00:00      

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