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05/05/06 15:15
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 +1 Good Question		 #115673 - High Tolerant Input Pins tvs, otpto,
I have a device that has a wiring harness with 110VAC and 0-5V wired next to each other. The 110VAC are motors and 5V are limit switches to the motors. The problem is the machine can not be rewired and the inputs are failing. I believe mostly from the noise from the AC lines. I would like to develop a better input circuit pin that is highly tolerant of this AC noise/crosstalk.
Right now, I have transzorbs on the each pin however I am still receiving failures. I believe part of the problem is the transzorb I used SMAJ5.0CA-13
only provides 5.0Vrwm of reverse standoff voltage protection. Would using a higher transzorb such as SMAJ85(C)A with 85Vrwm help my situation.
Beside changing the transzorb, I would like to put addition protection to improve reliability such as opto-isolation and a RC circuit. I have couple of different concepts circuits and any input would be appreciated. Suggestion on changing, add, deleting, or relocating components would help. A PDF of the circuit is available at Here


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High Tolerant Input Pins tvs, otpto,            01/01/70 00:00      
   Use a 'srial chip            01/01/70 00:00      
      But..            01/01/70 00:00      
         what's the problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Serial Chip            01/01/70 00:00      
         better or not            01/01/70 00:00      
   Suggestion            01/01/70 00:00      
   Input            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why damaged?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Why Damaged.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Another suggestion...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Schottky clamps ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Diode clamps            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Tranzorb            01/01/70 00:00      
      Try this...            01/01/70 00:00      
   ST overvoltage protection            01/01/70 00:00      
      A bad situation            01/01/70 00:00      
         Russell            01/01/70 00:00      
            My suggestion?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Look for PLC discrete input circuits            01/01/70 00:00      
      partially right            01/01/70 00:00      
         Even a PLC wouldn't like this circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
            OK, It's a switch - question to Scott            01/01/70 00:00      
               Speed of the input            01/01/70 00:00      
                  at lower detection rates ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What I recommended...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Steroids Desing            01/01/70 00:00      
      Analyse the circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
         to fully isolate            01/01/70 00:00      
            how about answering            01/01/70 00:00      
               That's obvious isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's not that obvious            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's just ignorance            01/01/70 00:00      
                        opto couplers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           true enough!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not so strange            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Not strange, perhaps, but WRONG!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's just ignorance            01/01/70 00:00      
                     maybe you answered this one yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                        still waiting            01/01/70 00:00      
                           No, though that might help            01/01/70 00:00      
   is this a newfangled idea            01/01/70 00:00      
      Downunder circuitry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why I use the opto            01/01/70 00:00      
      Perception vs reality            01/01/70 00:00      
      +5V supply, is it isolated?            01/01/70 00:00      
         already asked and asked again            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, last try before I leave the thread!            01/01/70 00:00      
               The +5V is Isolated.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  incomplete answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, what about the grounds?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Scott, where are you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           he left when we asked questions            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Still lost and confused            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 you do not need a scope to answer the qu            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 We cannot help you, if you do not...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    COM and E-GND            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       still not answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          just a minute ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             SO let me rephrase: how many ohms betwee            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Getting Older            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   if you want help, start with some answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Problem is much more complex            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   what do you mean by "dying"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Scott, could you...            01/01/70 00:00      

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