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05/06/06 02:19
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 		 #115741 - Try this...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Scott said:
Basicly, there is octal latch 74lcx245 that accepts the input. The input has 1k pull-up resistor to 5V. There is push button switch that is connected to the pull-up resistor and gnd. When the switch is pushed the input goes low. There is also .1uF Cap and biDirectional Transzorb on the input. The problem i am seeing is that 74lcx245 is blow out.
I have seen some other circuit that use PK6E82A unidirection on that input and it work pretty well. But, I would like to find something that is even better.

The problem with the bidirectional transzorb is, that it allows unsane negative potentials at the input of 74LCX245! So, only an unidirectional transzorb will do the trick, because only this one will limit negative potentials at input to a safe level!!

Nevertheless, I would add some low pass filtering to enhance the noise rejection at input of 74LCX245. So, I recommend you the following:

1. Remove the 100nF cap at input.

2. Connect at input of circuit (where the button is connected to) a SMJA5.0A unidirectional transzorb, with the anode to GND.

3. Connect a 10k series resistor from the input of circuit to the input of 74LCX245.

4. Connect from input of 74LCX245 a cap of about 1µF to GND.

5. Increase the pull-up at input of 74LCX245 to 100k.

This assumes that the observed destruction of 74LCX245 was not the result of an accidental short to 110VAC! If so, then you need a more sophisticated protection circuit. Have a look at datasheet of LT1785, for instance: At the end of datasheet you will find a protection circuit using a polyswitch to protect against shorts to 120VAC.

Kai

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High Tolerant Input Pins tvs, otpto,            01/01/70 00:00      
   Use a 'srial chip            01/01/70 00:00      
      But..            01/01/70 00:00      
         what's the problem?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: Serial Chip            01/01/70 00:00      
         better or not            01/01/70 00:00      
   Suggestion            01/01/70 00:00      
   Input            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why damaged?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Why Damaged.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Another suggestion...            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Schottky clamps ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Diode clamps            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Tranzorb            01/01/70 00:00      
      Try this...            01/01/70 00:00      
   ST overvoltage protection            01/01/70 00:00      
      A bad situation            01/01/70 00:00      
         Russell            01/01/70 00:00      
            My suggestion?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Look for PLC discrete input circuits            01/01/70 00:00      
      partially right            01/01/70 00:00      
         Even a PLC wouldn't like this circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
            OK, It's a switch - question to Scott            01/01/70 00:00      
               Speed of the input            01/01/70 00:00      
                  at lower detection rates ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     What I recommended...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Steroids Desing            01/01/70 00:00      
      Analyse the circuit            01/01/70 00:00      
         to fully isolate            01/01/70 00:00      
            how about answering            01/01/70 00:00      
               That's obvious isn't it?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  it's not that obvious            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's just ignorance            01/01/70 00:00      
                        opto couplers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           true enough!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not so strange            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Not strange, perhaps, but WRONG!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It's just ignorance            01/01/70 00:00      
                     maybe you answered this one yourself            01/01/70 00:00      
                        still waiting            01/01/70 00:00      
                           No, though that might help            01/01/70 00:00      
   is this a newfangled idea            01/01/70 00:00      
      Downunder circuitry            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why I use the opto            01/01/70 00:00      
      Perception vs reality            01/01/70 00:00      
      +5V supply, is it isolated?            01/01/70 00:00      
         already asked and asked again            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes, last try before I leave the thread!            01/01/70 00:00      
               The +5V is Isolated.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  incomplete answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, what about the grounds?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Scott, where are you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           he left when we asked questions            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Still lost and confused            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 you do not need a scope to answer the qu            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 We cannot help you, if you do not...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    COM and E-GND            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       still not answered            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          just a minute ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             SO let me rephrase: how many ohms betwee            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Getting Older            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   if you want help, start with some answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Problem is much more complex            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   what do you mean by "dying"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Scott, could you...            01/01/70 00:00      

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