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05/30/06 14:23
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#117277 - The internal supervisor (NEVER the Intel
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Can you just please add one of the many you use - and not in the list yet? A couple of words will suffice.
inherited stuff: 1232 (several mfgrs)
"My" stuff: The internal supervisor (NEVER the Intel PCA4 kluge).

ANY runaway program may toggle a pin and thus kick an external super, the two different, consequitive writes a proper internal super requires are extremely unlikely in a runaway situation. DO NOTE: there are some chips with internal supervisors that can be turned off/restarted by changing one bit, such chips should be listed in "joke of the day" magazine.

Re noise immunity: I am not quite sure, whether noise immunity in a supervisor is a required feature, really. Think of it, the micro experiences the same (or similar) amount of supply noise and can be thrown off by it quite easily, couldn't it?

The issue here is that if the super is much more sensitive to noise than the uC you get false resets. Now, on this subject, if you use proper 4 layer board with a proper layout, proper decoupling (ultrashort traces cap-chip) etc there is no noise problem. If, however, you are doing it the amateur way it could play a role.

Erik

List of 33 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Favorite reset/supervisor for '51?            01/01/70 00:00      
   (TL)7705            01/01/70 00:00      
      correction            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: correction            01/01/70 00:00      
   MAX813L or SP813L            01/01/70 00:00      
   MAX1232 plus 4k7 pull-up            01/01/70 00:00      
      pullup?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly!            01/01/70 00:00      
   LM809            01/01/70 00:00      
      809?            01/01/70 00:00      
         LM809 - LM810            01/01/70 00:00      
   using various, but maybe of interest            01/01/70 00:00      
      choose one            01/01/70 00:00      
         The internal supervisor (NEVER the Intel            01/01/70 00:00      
         Noise immunity            01/01/70 00:00      
            how to quantify noise immunity            01/01/70 00:00      
               you do not need to            01/01/70 00:00      
                  proper way and bulletproof            01/01/70 00:00      
                     who cares ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        don't play with words...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           never            01/01/70 00:00      
                              there's no point arguing...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 it is about the supervisor            01/01/70 00:00      
                              That's not true, Erik!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I stick to it.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I didn't expect anything else...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       way too often the highlighted is not the            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          the wolves            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          More measures than your boss like...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             agree            01/01/70 00:00      
               'How using a watchdog for my watchdog?'            01/01/70 00:00      
   ZSH560            01/01/70 00:00      
      ZSH->ZSM            01/01/70 00:00      

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