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12/17/07 10:46
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#148365 - 8051 is not french wrench
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Dear Andy,
Hello, As I remember you from your postings you are so professional that you should not have a religious feeling toward any MCU.

The problem of shehryar is that he wants to produce a MCU based computer with least price. I even read in document of sirius(device he tries to make) that company goal is to produce half of "well under 100$" which means well under 50$. I know there are fast 51 derivatives (from cypress...?) but the question is can they give something even near 16MIPS well under 3$(wholesale ATMega128). About comparing flash memory, well he said that he is program is too big to be handled by one MCU, I know he may add external flash but it is not free. So comparing flash memory was quite right in his case. if he can use 2 MCU instead of 3 there will be considerable price cut. AVRs(ATmega family) also have such a vast peripherals that you only can dream of it if you want to use a cheap 51 derivative. I have programmed with 51 and believe me there are times that I really miss 51(interrupt priorities, DIV,...) but on the other hand AVRs have their own strengths. So if he wants to use 8bit MCU for lowering cost I think AVR will be more suited for him(lower price,more resources). If he wants to port linux and internet,... I think then only ARMs will do.
regards,

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Executing from External Ram ; THE SEQUEL            01/01/70 00:00      
   You need to think more precisely            01/01/70 00:00      
      the whole thing seems like nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why process the Intel-HEX file locally?            01/01/70 00:00      
            ????            01/01/70 00:00      
               Andy is right            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It was actually Richard's idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thanx Richards            01/01/70 00:00      
         I was just referring to a PERFORMANCE METRIC            01/01/70 00:00      
            No PC involved??            01/01/70 00:00      
               PC involved            01/01/70 00:00      
      I Apologize for the Confusion, Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
         Don't apologise to me            01/01/70 00:00      
            Please Elaborate; ANDY, Eric, Richard and Reza            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe an example will help            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Russ have you done this before?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Done what before?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                               :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Think Basic-52            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 RAM IIRC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    IIRC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       :-), Not your Fault            01/01/70 00:00      
               Files            01/01/70 00:00      
                  YES the Content!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I\'m greatly impressed!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks a lot Reza.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
            :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
               OMG! is your OS 8bit?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Well!, THIS is a VERY BIG ISSUE            01/01/70 00:00      
            no, dont            01/01/70 00:00      
               ERIC, you have amazed me!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Can you give me a rough estimate ? Eric            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ARM Book?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  $1.50USD ARM            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Of course it is, however            01/01/70 00:00      
         Price issue            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why 3 MCUs?            01/01/70 00:00      
      The Reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
         AVRs won't have this problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            OK            01/01/70 00:00      
               Changing processor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  My two cents            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ARM is the right choice for the project of this Sc            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'd be VERY careful using ATMEL!            01/01/70 00:00      
               prototype testing is necessary            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, you have to test them under extremes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Richards, can you suggest an alternative?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  NXP            01/01/70 00:00      
                  In short ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Neither would a comparable 8051!            01/01/70 00:00      
               8051 is not french wrench            01/01/70 00:00      
                  AVR can't execute from external RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Russell Bull is right            01/01/70 00:00      
                        just like any other uC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Started Again after the holidays            01/01/70 00:00      

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