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12/18/07 00:21
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#148421 - In short ...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Just to keep this down to a couple or three paragraphs ...
{begin rant}
We started prototyping with an ARM7TDMI that ATMEL was having developed by a French design team back in 2001-2002. We bought their VERY costly (>$1000 without LINUX and development tools when everyone else's cost about $200 including LINUX and development tools) eval board, and found that there were a few things they hadn't told us previously. First of all, their bootloader didn't work properly. Secondly, their SDRAM channel didn't work, which meant we really couldn't use their processor. Thirdly, they didn't know the low-level details of quite a bit of their hardware, though they denied that. I could go on ... but the fact is that they lied and stonewalled at every turn, and, French engineers being essentially permanent employees (you can't fire 'em no matter how incompetent they are) they kept on doing that.

We switched to Samsung ... but only after losing considerable time and wasting quite a bit of money.

Oh yes ... there's one more thing ... The ultimately decided, after keeping us on the string by promising fixes in revised silicon, that they wouldn't produce the part we'd been working with for over half a year.

It doesn't matter where you buy an ARM, or any other product, so long as it isn't ATMEL. Use ATMEL, and you get what you deserve.
{end rant}

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Executing from External Ram ; THE SEQUEL            01/01/70 00:00      
   You need to think more precisely            01/01/70 00:00      
      the whole thing seems like nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why process the Intel-HEX file locally?            01/01/70 00:00      
            ????            01/01/70 00:00      
               Andy is right            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It was actually Richard's idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Thanx Richards            01/01/70 00:00      
         I was just referring to a PERFORMANCE METRIC            01/01/70 00:00      
            No PC involved??            01/01/70 00:00      
               PC involved            01/01/70 00:00      
      I Apologize for the Confusion, Andy            01/01/70 00:00      
         Don't apologise to me            01/01/70 00:00      
            Please Elaborate; ANDY, Eric, Richard and Reza            01/01/70 00:00      
               Maybe an example will help            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Russ have you done this before?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Done what before?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Yes            01/01/70 00:00      
                               :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Think Basic-52            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 RAM IIRC?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    IIRC            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       :-), Not your Fault            01/01/70 00:00      
               Files            01/01/70 00:00      
                  YES the Content!!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I\'m greatly impressed!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks a lot Reza.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
            :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
               OMG! is your OS 8bit?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Well!, THIS is a VERY BIG ISSUE            01/01/70 00:00      
            no, dont            01/01/70 00:00      
               ERIC, you have amazed me!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Can you give me a rough estimate ? Eric            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I have no idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     ARM Book?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  $1.50USD ARM            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Of course it is, however            01/01/70 00:00      
         Price issue            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why 3 MCUs?            01/01/70 00:00      
      The Reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
         AVRs won't have this problem            01/01/70 00:00      
            OK            01/01/70 00:00      
               Changing processor            01/01/70 00:00      
                  My two cents            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ARM is the right choice for the project of this Sc            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'd be VERY careful using ATMEL!            01/01/70 00:00      
               prototype testing is necessary            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, you have to test them under extremes            01/01/70 00:00      
               Richards, can you suggest an alternative?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  NXP            01/01/70 00:00      
                  In short ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Neither would a comparable 8051!            01/01/70 00:00      
               8051 is not french wrench            01/01/70 00:00      
                  AVR can't execute from external RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Russell Bull is right            01/01/70 00:00      
                        just like any other uC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Started Again after the holidays            01/01/70 00:00      

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