| ??? 12/23/07 16:38 Modified: 12/23/07 16:45 Read: times |
#148638 - Of course, I did Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Joseph said:
If that's true, then randomness is a myth. Why?? Isn't it a difference whether you put a dice with a known number on top on table or you throw it? Whether you take a riggid dice or a proper one? Jospeh said:
Explain this to me then, from your other recent post. If the Heisenberg principle precludes the possibiliy of knowing both position and momentum, how can you know that two weather systems are identicle? So, you admit, that a physical situation isn't completely predictable? How will you be able to predcit the result of a dice experiment then? You told, if you only knew the initial data, then you could calculate the result. I say, because of uncertainty principle there doesn't exist this initial data (on microscopic scale) and even if you would know it, then uncertainty principle makes it unpredictable what further happens to the dice. It's like the example of billard balls. It's theoretically unpredictable, not because you don't know the initial data. About the weather model: Weather usually is modelled by macroscopic equations. By "identically" I meant identically refering to their macroscopic equations. Jospeh, do you think that the Laplace Daemon is possible? Kai |



