??? 03/22/08 00:00 Read: times |
#152434 - Thanks Richard Responding to: ???'s previous message |
Richard Erlacher said
If you properly filter your power supplies you needn't worry about RF or AC from the mains with the low impedance that you're using. However, you should probably load the inputs with a small capacitor (~1 nF) and definitely use a Schmidt-trigger inverter such as 40106/74C14. That will slow the switch closure and minimize the effect of bounce, perhaps even swallowing it completely. Unfortunately, you've not explained what the noise source is and why you're concerned about it. Unless the ambient noise is quite low-impedance, you shouldn't see it in the circuit you're using, particularly if you capacitor-damp the schmidt-triggered input. Keep in mind, too, that the 40106 will happily work at 12 volts, and will tolerate a very slow rise time, as would result from a capacitor-damped input. I would attenuate the inputs before capacitor-damping them, and feed that to Schmidt-triggers operating at the local supply voltage, however. It matters quite a bit where the noise is originates, i.e. is it from the power supply, or the cable, on-board logic, or the environment. If that's not known, you can find it easily enough by means of a spectrum analyzer, which will show you the relative power in each frequency band. With a low-resistance 40 cm jumper, you can find the source at the boundaries of your PCB, and that same jumper can help you find appropriate sites for bypass to suppress that noise on your board. Inline ferrite beads can help with noise on your cables. RE Thanks Richard, I appreciate very much your well thought comments.Meanwhile a 100K from base to ground has completely changed the picture...so long I had kept the diode inputs floating.....triggering by my multimeter in its diode testing range....and after connecting the 100K it is no more getting triggered by above low level inputs. Now I am going to connect the 12 volt circuit.Connecting a condenser across the contact points is necessary but I wonder why not a much bigger one in this particular case if it is to bypass everything except firm switch closures. I am new to this medical/nursing home electronics and trying to design for the worst case.At last I got this Vishay PDF "Application Examples" Document Number: 83741 which is helping but not exactly on 4N35.The 100k idea I had from SMPS circuits and also from SB PM6668.DIA i.e. SB6668.zip.Sorry I don't have URLs but I got these from Googles few hours back. Kindly give me a few hours time to post results. With best regards A.S.Rudra |