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03/24/08 20:00
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#152495 - Hello Erik,Hello Kai,
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Hello Everybody,
Hello Erik,Hello Kai,
Welcome.Regards.

Remember that relays need a minimum current to get the contacts reliably closed.
Kai

Yes Sir.Relays in this project are only in remote control receivers,each has one,each consumes around 24/3000=8mA,thank God,otherwise it would have been difficult to manage in TRFless design.Since relays will be dead on or off for long time I can afford much more than normal debounce-delays before accepting their active or inactive states and yet manage the 10-extetrnal inputs(relays) plus 10 onboard inputs(tactiles) polling loop in a couple of seconds which I think is reasonable.
Now how much is those couple of seconds in different situations is the headache.
My respected teachers,I am sorry,SPECIFATIONS nowadays are vague.It becomes my duty to design the problem and solve myself based on actual user's choice.
Hence comes the question how to notify the user at central detector about the inputs:one is 7seg.10 such 7segs are going to consume 10 pins.So 30 pins are gone.
Another vehicle to notify the user will be audio,the user did want some better musical sounds.But the music SHOULD NOT continue for long,be it for one relay or several relays.Here is the problem Michael.The music consuming my two timers must be enabled and disabled
by two different stimulii,one, end of programmed duration AND/or two,tactile switches.
That is why I asked why 10 tactiles should be necessary?
Any one or all connected parallel(cheat) should do.
I am sorry for difficult and lenthy question.You have to read and read I am afraid.
But your responses are highly encouraging.Please find fault in my assumptions and logics and kindly advise.
As it stands now no "rapid respinse" and no " '14 schmitt"..
Am I wrong?
With best regards
A.S.Rudra

List of 44 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Possibly noisy Relay/Switch Inputs            01/01/70 00:00      
   Schmitt inverter            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Steve but please note change            01/01/70 00:00      
         Steve's suggestion is certainly valid!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thanks Richard            01/01/70 00:00      
               Do you really need the optoisolators?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why Schmitt Gates            01/01/70 00:00      
            That is the purpose of Schmidt-triggers ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   This is how I would do it            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'd probably do that too, except ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
         The waters have been muddied ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
               Yes, it's clearer, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Priority Encoder Not a Good Idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Yes, highest priority input would mask others            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Welcome Sir Michael Karas            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Note Length & Cadence on One Timer            01/01/70 00:00      
         Noise            01/01/70 00:00      
            It's all analog            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another way to do this            01/01/70 00:00      
   how fast do you need to detect the contacts            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hello Erik,Hello Kai,            01/01/70 00:00      
         what are you describing?            01/01/70 00:00      
            actual distance test(ohmically)            01/01/70 00:00      
               please answer questions            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Part success            01/01/70 00:00      
                     In the last analysis, it is up to you            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Provocative            01/01/70 00:00      
                           totally irrelevant            01/01/70 00:00      
                     what 'common'            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Transformerless supply...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I do not understand, parallelling switches            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Absolutely deadly dangerous!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              parallelling switches            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Sorry, but I see a contradiction...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    shock? touching what?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Come on!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The standard to which we designed ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         I believe you may have missed the point            01/01/70 00:00      
   Current rating of relay?            01/01/70 00:00      
      not to nitpick, but            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thank you very much Erik            01/01/70 00:00      

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