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11/28/08 17:30
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#160377 - particular application of OP, not yours, matters
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
I DO NOT, WILL NOT use 'paging' (code or data) it totally kills performance.

However I do have a product where a 2Mbyte flash is attched to a '51, this flash is read about once an hour through 'discrete routines' and no other acesss to XDATA is affected.


I keep repeating on this forum - and it's quite a couple of years now when I registered for the first time - that it's always the particular application which dictates what is and what is not appropriate in that particular case.

As long as we don't know what is the OP's application for a big RAM, we can only speculate. And, to say, ARM is best, is the same nonsense as to say '51 is the best. Note, that NOBODY said that so far (except Andy, who quoted the "the best", but I repeat, nobody said that). "The best" is nonsense without context.

I maintain, that there ARE applications where paging does not matter, as well as attaching a RAM serially or in whatever way. That these are not "common", "majority" applications, it really does not matter - we don't know whether the OP wants to discuss a "common" application, or a specialty - and I would bet on the latter, otherwise he probably wouldn't ask at all.

And I see no point in repeating the "common" solutions - there are textbooks, FAQ, zillions of other places to refer for that. I prefer to discuss the rare and extreme, as there are far less sources for that, and that's what can distinguish us from the crowd.

JW


List of 35 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Need bigger RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
   find out here            01/01/70 00:00      
   MCS-51 is the best            01/01/70 00:00      
      Not for BIG RAM!            01/01/70 00:00      
         why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Disagree            01/01/70 00:00      
            Address range does matter            01/01/70 00:00      
               still, why not            01/01/70 00:00      
                  while I agree with Per, here is a nugget for Jan            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Large data:: Yes, large RAM: Watch out            01/01/70 00:00      
                     particular application of OP, not yours, matters            01/01/70 00:00      
                        And the best is...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but added complexity equals likely more buggy            01/01/70 00:00      
                  "best" is the key.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Addressing modes do matter            01/01/70 00:00      
               Why would anyone use THAT architecture?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Helps to check context before reacting            01/01/70 00:00      
                     It is the architecture and not the brand            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Sorry if unclear            01/01/70 00:00      
            Quick PC history            01/01/70 00:00      
               engineering insight            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What was your point?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Possible to 16Mbyte            01/01/70 00:00      
      I use MCS51            01/01/70 00:00      
         So why didn't you say that in the first place?            01/01/70 00:00      
            The universal truth again            01/01/70 00:00      
               64kB RAM?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Both            01/01/70 00:00      
                     don't be deceived by Keil's database            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Good to know            01/01/70 00:00      
         '51 vs '52            01/01/70 00:00      
         even with AT89C2051 can be done            01/01/70 00:00      
   ... and the BIGGEST is...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Is that RAM on-chip?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Maybe biggest, but BEST?            01/01/70 00:00      

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