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11/05/09 20:38
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#170472 - Design specs eh
Responding to: ???'s previous message
When a manufacturer starts putting in "specs" in very small fine print and sprinkles them through out the document they are special. When it is obvious then it's a design spec. For example, with their C2 interface, section 23.2 states that the user cannot change the input of C2D P3.0 while the device is halted and the /RST is only an input. Keep adding "specs" in order to make the MCU work properly is not a good out of the box solution. Then on top of that they claim "Additional resistors may be necessary depending on the specific application." How are you supposed to interpret that? When does one use additional resistors? Special circumstances is what I am claiming, as in the case of having a long wire attached to /RST. When do I put on that additional decoupling cap? What should the cap value be? Why am I consuming board space for component if I do not need it? Let me shoot the board without it and later find out, HEY, I needed that cap. They do not even give you a good idea of how to wire that cap. You have to look at their target board schematic which is different than in the way that I had imagined doing it. They even go so far as to call out the type of cap (X7R and X5R). This is not obvious.

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C2 debugger interface resets when ground pin is touched            01/01/70 00:00      
   Flash operations            01/01/70 00:00      
      one point            01/01/70 00:00      
         WDT and flash            01/01/70 00:00      
            do you have a 4 layer board, is the PC and ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               GSM modem, not PC..            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Floating signals            01/01/70 00:00      
                  PC "ground" loop?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     That is a good point!!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Perhaps you should "AC-couple" signal GND to "earth"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe your compy USB is flakey?            01/01/70 00:00      
      apples and oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
   No surprise at all!            01/01/70 00:00      
      Actually, it resets when I am nowhere near it also.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Unfortunately,...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Section 11.3 of the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
            known as 'design specifications'            01/01/70 00:00      
               Another clarification..            01/01/70 00:00      
               Design specs eh            01/01/70 00:00      
                  which is ridiculous and "asking for it"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SICKLabs...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     /RST cap            01/01/70 00:00      
   Your power supply looks instable?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Unstable supply?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Supply            01/01/70 00:00      
            wrong approach            01/01/70 00:00      
         good catch AP            01/01/70 00:00      
      Indeed!            01/01/70 00:00      
      An easy test            01/01/70 00:00      
         oh, but it does            01/01/70 00:00      

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