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03/30/05 16:22
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#90697 - I read the Datasheet of MID400
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Erik Malund said:
I'd use a small transformer simply because its pins put the 220V further away from the low voltage circuitry than an optoisolator does. Maybe not a valid point, but I have seen too many sparks between probes and opto pins (and sometimes the probe has shorted 220V to 5V circuitry BOOM). The very fact that optoisos still come in DIL to separate the pins makes my case.

Again no "electronic" reason, just a better feeling.

Erik

Erik,

I just went through the datasheets of the MID400 (the one Sasha proposed to 'spy' the 220V) and I see that this device is specially (and solely?) developed for 'AC mains control'.

I quote the introduction of the datasheet:

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The MID400 is an optically isolated AC line-to-logic interface device. It is packaged in an 8-lead plastic DIP. The AC line voltage is monitored by two back-to-back GaAs
LED diodes in series with an external resistor. A high gain detector circuit senses the LED current and drives the output gate to a logic low condition.
The MID400 has been designed solely for the use as an AC line monitor.
It is recommended for use in any AC-to-DC control application where excellent optical isolation, solid state reliability, TTL compatibility, small size, low power, and low frequency operations are required.

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Knowing this, does that still gives you a bad feeling about the device?

If I may be so free, can I maybe ask you to have a quick scan through the datasheet of this device? Here's the link:
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/MI/MID400.pdf

Would like to know your opinion.

Best rgds,

--Geert



List of 37 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Detecting 220V            01/01/70 00:00      
   AC-input optoisolator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'd use a transformer            01/01/70 00:00      
      Why the transformer?            01/01/70 00:00      
         not necessarily relative to ground            01/01/70 00:00      
            Neon + LDR?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I read the Datasheet of MID400            01/01/70 00:00      
         MID400            01/01/70 00:00      
            That's strange, Erik!            01/01/70 00:00      
               recognized            01/01/70 00:00      
                  "You're Forgiven, Not Forgotten..."            01/01/70 00:00      
   Transformer isolation recommended            01/01/70 00:00      
      May I Modify Your Suggestion Kai ??            01/01/70 00:00      
         Of course...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Kai, Michael - what about ready-made            01/01/70 00:00      
               Could also solve the problem            01/01/70 00:00      
                  One futther on the Wall Wart Idea...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Wall Wart            01/01/70 00:00      
      Is optoisolation fundamentally dangerous            01/01/70 00:00      
         No, not fundamentally, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
            What is dangerous?            01/01/70 00:00      
   A different view            01/01/70 00:00      
   I'm sweating... ;-)            01/01/70 00:00      
      wallwarts            01/01/70 00:00      
         Oh, I see!            01/01/70 00:00      
            that's a lot of fuses            01/01/70 00:00      
            A bit clarification required            01/01/70 00:00      
               Forgot to press the "Post" button            01/01/70 00:00      
                  enough, yes - that much, no            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Existing commercial products            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Quite a large project, indeed...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Mains control            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I know...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Safety issues            01/01/70 00:00      
   Another idea, using a coil and an op-amp            01/01/70 00:00      
      RE: Another idea...            01/01/70 00:00      

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