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07/10/05 23:39
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#96967 - Re: Sort of...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Steve said:
Are you sure Kai ? I would have thought it is probably always "grounded" , sort of,nominally, somewhere, once !

I just had a look into the phone cable box of our house: What enters the house is only a twisted pair, being connected to nothing else than the phone. No local earthing!
Maybe there's an earth connection in the distributor box of the street, but I never did see local earth connections at households.

For instance, You can have the system "tied to ground" at the exchange, and behaving perfectly fine, until a lightning strike raises LOCAL earth potential some considerable distance above ground.

Exactly! That's the mechanism, which leads to heavy surges at the phone lines relatively to local earth. Means, Mehdi can experience heavy surges between phone lines and his local earth, which are strong enough to destroy his detector!

Professional phone applications provide heavy surges suppressors where the phone lines enter the circuitry, you know these little gas tubes which allow arcs to jump over its contacts.

Kai

List of 43 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
First:Wiring Error Detection!            01/01/70 00:00      
   It depends            01/01/70 00:00      
   First observation            01/01/70 00:00      
      First observation            01/01/70 00:00      
   Danger of surges            01/01/70 00:00      
      Sort of.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sort of            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: Sort of...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Phone line transients            01/01/70 00:00      
               Schematic of a simple filter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Research...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     router            01/01/70 00:00      
                     gas discharge tubes            01/01/70 00:00      
                        GDT            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Gas discharge tubes            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Oh dear...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Gas Tubes            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Or            01/01/70 00:00      
   Ring.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Where's Ring?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I say ..            01/01/70 00:00      
         Telephone systems            01/01/70 00:00      
            Telephone systems            01/01/70 00:00      
               tester            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yep Jan!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Even for testing not allowed            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Line simulator            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Another Misunderstanding Kai            01/01/70 00:00      
                        misunderstanding            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Jan            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Confusion...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              quote from my previous post            01/01/70 00:00      
                           It's a current loop ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Correction            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ring?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Yes Jan!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    it explains a few things, though            01/01/70 00:00      
            Phone Line Ground            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not quite offtopic...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Alternative schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
      Just a simple comparsion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
      please help me (telepone)            01/01/70 00:00      

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