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07/15/05 11:19
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#97423 - 4004 memories...
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No Jan, I don't know what the 8048 development route was. In 1976, the 4040/4004 was apparently the most produced microprocessor in the world! I can't imagine why the development team might have moved on to the 8048 - probably one of those insane political decisions, based on a mindset that suggested both were 'small and simple' ;-)

I actually missed out on microcontrollers (we went for Z80s and then I became a 'manager' instead), only coming 'back' to dirty hands and the 8051/2 in 1993 when I set up my own design consultancy. I do remember my brother, who had just finished a PhD and was working for an electronics outfit in 1986 or 7 actually taking home trays of 8051s. They were in short supply and VERY expensive. The company didn't even want to leave them in its safe...

Both 4004 and PDP-8 (the 8k Cadillac, Erik) were a culture shock for me. I cut my teeth on PDP-11s (Macro-11) and our English offshoot of a New Jersey company was already using LSI-11s in our control systems (Western Digital made a microprocessor with a PDP-11 core for DEC - in 1975 - whilst everyone else was playing with 4 and 8 bits!!!). Then the US called - they couldn't hire anyone to program their recently developed 4004 based controller, so I wound up in NJ (perhaps I was just cheap). Boy was that different.

It was interesting to see the completely different route the PDP-11 had taken after the PDP-8. And why the latter design team upped and left and set up Data General to build Novas.

One weekend in the spring of 1976, I went to a Radio Rally (Hamfest) - I hold an amateur licence - at Princeton University. Tucked away in one corner (a big corner) was a whole bunch of people selling second-hand ASR-33 Teletypes, monitors, keyboards, racking, modules, lineprinters and other ex-mainframe bits and pieces. There were even Altair and KIM-1 kits. Talking to one of the guys at work on the Monday morning about where I'd been, he produced his copy of the NY Times, in which there was a big spread on this event - calling it the world's first ever home computer fair! I wonder if it was...

Dave

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OT? the road paved with burned chips.            01/01/70 00:00      
   started on SW            01/01/70 00:00      
   solitary studies            01/01/70 00:00      
   road paved            01/01/70 00:00      
   My story            01/01/70 00:00      
   make something you really need            01/01/70 00:00      
      I hope you are not gouging the blind            01/01/70 00:00      
         But            01/01/70 00:00      
            at least            01/01/70 00:00      
      "You were lucky..."            01/01/70 00:00      
         similar?            01/01/70 00:00      
            8048            01/01/70 00:00      
               i know that            01/01/70 00:00      
            4004 memories...            01/01/70 00:00      
         those were the days            01/01/70 00:00      
         Luxury            01/01/70 00:00      
   nooo            01/01/70 00:00      
      aid to the blind            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re Aid to the blind            01/01/70 00:00      
            $1600!!!            01/01/70 00:00      
               How to buy :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  talkie?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     talking bit            01/01/70 00:00      
   Paved? How about gravel?            01/01/70 00:00      
   mainframes to microcontrollers            01/01/70 00:00      
   Totally Agree            01/01/70 00:00      
      My tale of woe!            01/01/70 00:00      
         just to make sure            01/01/70 00:00      
   ate my post            01/01/70 00:00      

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