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06/01/06 17:31
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#117547 - Some hype there
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The information is, of course, interesting. But the author either hyped the situation or was uninformed when he wrote:

Current users of the 8051, 251, 8096/196, 188/186, i960, 386 and 486 are basically out of luck. Orders won’t be accepted after March, 2007. Pin for pin second sources mostly don’t exist, though AMD continues to make variants of the 186, and lots of companies produce various flavors of the 8051.


Say what? The Intel line of 8051-compatible MCUs is about the most no-frills, bottom-of-the-line products you can find. If he means that you can't find another pin-for-pin second source with such a minimal set of features, he's probably right. But there are plenty (I'm not sure whether to say dozens or hundreds) of pin-for-pin second sources if you are willing to tolerate a larger feature set.

I've actually only used an Intel '51 once, and that was because it was part of an existing product that I had to work with. I've never designed system from scratch using an Intel '51 part. They just didn't come close to what was offered by other vendors. Their '51 line of products pretty much got stuck in the 80's. While that was a great decade, I'm not sure I want my technology stuck there.

The article also notes that Intel is abandoning more than 700 parts and pretty much just going exclusively Pentium. This isn't a specific and isolated abandonment of the '51 architecture but rather a clear move on Intel's part to get out of the high-volume, small embedded system industry.

Regards,
Craig Steiner


List of 41 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Intel will discontinue MCS51 & MCS251...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Leaving Temic/Atmel as a single source.            01/01/70 00:00      
      You Sure            01/01/70 00:00      
         Philips was too smart ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      single source of the 251            01/01/70 00:00      
   at a recent survey of proposed 16 bit ne            01/01/70 00:00      
   I used no Intel 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
      A resounding "So what?"            01/01/70 00:00      
      Flash            01/01/70 00:00      
         they were and what a piece of s#!+            01/01/70 00:00      
            Never had problems            01/01/70 00:00      
            No problems detected            01/01/70 00:00      
               it was 1993?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I don't use ATMEL anything!            01/01/70 00:00      
      in the olden days there was Intel and ..            01/01/70 00:00      
         True, but that was then            01/01/70 00:00      
            the first "processors for embedding" ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               DEC even called some "micro-computers"            01/01/70 00:00      
   Some hype there            01/01/70 00:00      
      Low Margin vs High margin            01/01/70 00:00      
         Spin-off            01/01/70 00:00      
   I imagine they are going to buy someone            01/01/70 00:00      
      is it official???            01/01/70 00:00      
         it is official :o(            01/01/70 00:00      
         It is official            01/01/70 00:00      
   Pshaw! ... young whippersnappers ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Dating Yourself Richard ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      history            01/01/70 00:00      
         I'd quibble about some of the "facts"            01/01/70 00:00      
            where did I said that?            01/01/70 00:00      
            MCS family different            01/01/70 00:00      
               does everything not spring from the 4004            01/01/70 00:00      
                  two groups            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I know this a bit differently            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Hi-Tech Jewelry            01/01/70 00:00      
               Well, the 802x was a "small" 8048            01/01/70 00:00      
                  "microcomputer"            01/01/70 00:00      
                     as opposed to a single-board computer            01/01/70 00:00      
                        8021            01/01/70 00:00      
   what is about license?            01/01/70 00:00      
      No - production just stopped.            01/01/70 00:00      

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