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09/07/06 21:18
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#123876 - quite true
Responding to: ???'s previous message
It's often worthwhile building buffered test points into a circuit.

My comment, however, was directed at the notion that the newbie would be overwhelmed with a FET buffer, not because of its complexity, given that your initial reference to that NSC app-note, but because of the other remark I made, namely that one routinely expects an oscillator circuit, wired as specified in the various datasheets and app-notes and using specified components, to oscillate. One doesn't, therefore, build in test point buffers for that particular part of the circuit, even if it later turns out to have been advantageous. That is a part of the circuit that one has every right to expect to work correctly 100% of the time, and in 100% of cases. Even one failure, of the billions of parts that they ship, would give me pause. It should not be possible for such a vital circuit to fail. Unfortunately, it is.

I ask, however, Do we know enough about this particular situation to make any suggestion in repairing it?

BTW, I just fooled around for a few moments with 1x probes on a frequency counter in parallel with my oscilloscope, on a CMOS oscillator, and, what I found was that the oscillator was distorted, attenuated, but the thing kept right on running and drove both the counter and the oscilloscope. That was at very nearly 20 MHz.

Do you suppose something's broken in the O/P's circuit?

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20 MHz osc.            01/01/70 00:00      
   no answer            01/01/70 00:00      
      by oscilloscope probe            01/01/70 00:00      
         WHAT DERIVATIVE? WHAT VOLTAGE            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why Erik is asking            01/01/70 00:00      
               Do standard i8052's work at 20 MHz?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  who c ares            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Maybe he don't know what a "derivative" is??            01/01/70 00:00      
         ALE probably won't help ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            it will            01/01/70 00:00      
               true enough, but he knows it\'s not oscillating            01/01/70 00:00      
                  you never know            01/01/70 00:00      
                     FET buffer is suited to touch the oscillator pins            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Or a FET probe for your 'scope            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Of course, but expensive...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Yes, but necessary            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Dont take it too literaly...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    quite true            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       we'll never know            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ah, now I know what you mean!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Low capacitance probes.            01/01/70 00:00      
   That would be tricky...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Well            01/01/70 00:00      
   thanks for all replies,            01/01/70 00:00      
      8259            01/01/70 00:00      
      Operating?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Crystal Types            01/01/70 00:00      
         Xtal            01/01/70 00:00      
            ???            01/01/70 00:00      
               SMS reply            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Only NP0 ceramics must be used!            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I'm curious            01/01/70 00:00      
      Some answers...            01/01/70 00:00      
      no thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
      You really SHOULD respond            01/01/70 00:00      
         So many people SHOULD...            01/01/70 00:00      
            if only they WOULD            01/01/70 00:00      
   Use Inductor            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes, but at the right place!            01/01/70 00:00      
         so why bother            01/01/70 00:00      
   and why bother #2            01/01/70 00:00      

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