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#132084 - What do you mean \"ummm\"
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Mike Stegmaier said:

First of all, what role does the 18.432 MHz oscillator or crystal have in your system? You can't use a crystal of that frequency in a crystal oscillator configuration on the HMOS MCU,

Its CMOS. My chip is an intel 80C51-BH.
It has worked with it before.

I've got the databook for that part in my lap right now, and it is not specified for operation above 12 MHz. Are you willing to invest all this time, effort, and expense, in something that, at best, MIGHT work properly?
and, in order to get to a suitable baud rate for standard asynchronous communication, you'll have to use T2

I don't have T2. My is an 8051 compatible chip. It doesn't have the 8052 features.

Gee, Intel thinks you do. Their databook says it has two 16-bit timers.
just to generate common baud rates with that speed even if your part does work at that rate, which it shouldn't.

My previous system allowed me to work at a 19.2kbps baud rate with that crystal. and the same chips were used then.

However, if you choose to use CMOS address latch...
Actually, I'm going to leave my latch alone and go with 74HC573.

You DO know that that's a CMOS device that requires pullups, right?
The only pin that might be affected by CMOS gates is the PSEN pin, the clock, and the parallel port data.

The logic works, but I have to work with what I have available to me.

How can you know that? Have you examined it with oscilloscope and logic analyzer? Do you even know what a logic analyzer is?
It's not a "logic probe" which has a one-shot and an LED. It's a sophisticated instrument with many, in some cases hundreds, of channels, which it samples, stores, and displays. Imagine a 250-channel oscilloscope ... one that only displays logic levels.

OK, so you're using the CMOS part, which IS static. That's good. You can do whatever you want with the oscillator input.

How does that help your part operate at 1.5x its' specified rate? Are you playing "fast and loose" with the spec's?

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TopicAuthorDate
CMOS?            01/01/70 00:00      
   74HC and 74HCT IS CMOS!            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes            01/01/70 00:00      
         a datasheet and a calculator            01/01/70 00:00      
   Why do you want to "process the PSEN signal" I kno            01/01/70 00:00      
      You need to stick your nose in the books, Mike            01/01/70 00:00      
         umm.            01/01/70 00:00      
            WHAT are you doing with the PSEN ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               programmer + system            01/01/70 00:00      
                  80C51BH doesn't have EPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
                     He's using it as an 80C31            01/01/70 00:00      
                     im meant            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Ambiguous            01/01/70 00:00      
                     LPT            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Is it T0 and T1, or T1 and T2?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           T0 and T1 and, for a '52 T2            01/01/70 00:00      
            What do you mean \"ummm\"            01/01/70 00:00      
               welcome to "Trying"            01/01/70 00:00      
                  nobody thinks you're stupid, however ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     answer.            01/01/70 00:00      
                        why screw with the clock?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           stop trying to make deals!            01/01/70 00:00      
                              not necessarily            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 ok            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    sorry, I goofed            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Because...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Yes, but will it work? It's ATMEL ... (yechhh!)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Just to play it safe            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    or try the Maxim/DALLAS parts ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       BINGO            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Not a good first chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          What's his primary purpose            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Mike - FREE CHIP            01/01/70 00:00      
                        An easier way?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           if he is to get another chip, then            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Harder than it needs to be            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Let him do what he wants! He'll learn something.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a small correction            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Well, I wouldn't know ... I don't use ATMEL            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    answers....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       TOTALLY and ABSOLUTELY incorrect. if "the flash            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          .            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             Mike ,,, there are other problems ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        There may be some surprises ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               two Timers            01/01/70 00:00      

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