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03/20/07 23:54
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#135460 - My experience
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..For what it's worth........

I use IAR for my 8051 projects and Imagecraft ICCAVR for my AVR projects. Galaxies apart in terms of cost - the Imagecraft compiler is $199USD whereas the IAR is many $1000. For the most part, I'm happy with the Iamgecraft compiler - its fairly mature now and Richard of Imagecraft is very quick to respond - I hit him with a defect many years ago and it was fixed next day. I also suggested register shuffling when doing bit shifts of multiples of 8bits. He also implemented this. Unfortunately, the output of the Imagecraft compiler doesn't seem to compare with the WinAVR compiler. WinAVR, whilst not quite as friendly, seems to do a better job and the code is smaller. However, my first choice is to use the Imagecraft product as it is nicer to use.

As for writing code for multiple targets, I recently was looking at the Atmel sample code for their AT90USBKEY product. Their code copes with their 8051 and AVR targets. From what I can gather using much the same techniques as Bernd describes. Where there a differences, these are isolated by macros that conditionally expand depending on the detected compiler.

The issue you raise is common for a lot of us - I use a variety of ARM based cpus,AVR and 8051.


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TopicAuthorDate
Keil \\\'51 and AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
   AVR?            01/01/70 00:00      
      AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
      you got me, Atmel AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
   The standard compiler for the avr is avr-gcc            01/01/70 00:00      
      OH NO            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, at least you do have the opportunity            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'll tell my boss that the project will get delaye            01/01/70 00:00      
               On the other hand            01/01/70 00:00      
                  part of the reason for this post            01/01/70 00:00      
         Do not use            01/01/70 00:00      
            michael some questions            01/01/70 00:00      
               partial answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                  actually            01/01/70 00:00      
               IAR...            01/01/70 00:00      
      used avr-gcc in the year 2000 and            01/01/70 00:00      
   Time to eat your words!            01/01/70 00:00      
      not really            01/01/70 00:00      
   you can save a lot of time if you create            01/01/70 00:00      
      very helpful, thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
   yes and if you can describe in more            01/01/70 00:00      
      ok, here we go            01/01/70 00:00      
         RESTATE PURPOSE of thread            01/01/70 00:00      
            What bugs???            01/01/70 00:00      
            I suggest Imagecraft C compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ive found that gcc produces fast code and its free            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Worthless statistics            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the issue here is            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if I understand it right...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not so strange?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              this is slightly different            01/01/70 00:00      
               GCC - over-strict ANSI?            01/01/70 00:00      
            CodeVision AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
               CodeVision - no Linker?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No linker            01/01/70 00:00      
                     pray tell            01/01/70 00:00      
                        IAR            01/01/70 00:00      
                           sounds par for the course            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No linker with CodeVision AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Both '51 and AVR at the same time?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                           8051 to AVR migration            01/01/70 00:00      
                              questions, misunderstandings, answers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 so you have the solution?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    it's IAR            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Just for the AVR...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I do not know, I did not ask            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             some snippets on AVRs...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                interesting, evidently they have taken upon themse            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   your link was broken            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      But what about 1 instead of I?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         this is not about mistypes, it is about missing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            apparently, Atmel admits it...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               so where is the 51freaks equivalent            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  the "confirmation" is apparently...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               you just have to accept eric doesnt like atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   or            01/01/70 00:00      
               bit variables on WINAVR            01/01/70 00:00      
                  using avrstudio and gcc generated .coff files            01/01/70 00:00      
   well, the whole story seems to be not            01/01/70 00:00      
      My experience            01/01/70 00:00      
   just a few words            01/01/70 00:00      
      SiLabs non-American?            01/01/70 00:00      
         not the chip, the board            01/01/70 00:00      
   WINAVR experience            01/01/70 00:00      
      WinAVR <=> GCC            01/01/70 00:00      

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