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03/22/07 19:23
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#135596 - IAR
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Sorry Erik, I thought I had already.

I consider the support IAR gives excellent.

For most of the past 10 years, when I've sent an email to IAR tech support, I've gotten a reply within a couple hours. Most of that time I've dealt with the SAME support guy, who knows his stuff. You build up some trust and a relationship dealing with the same person again and again. I'm also happy to say that I haven't done that a whole lot...just on occasion when I've run into something I couldn't solve on my own. I think I only ran into a real compiler bug once or twice; sad to say most of my problems were my own fault.

Note that's with their 8051 compiler, so I can't vouch for their other compilers, but it does give a glimpse into what kind of company they must be to have that kind of stability in their personnel.

I have been irritated at IAR on occasion when in this day and age of computers the folks in their office can't get my phone number and address updated when I send in a marked change with my support agreement renewal. They've also been a bit lax in communicating when new updates were available.

I did get ticked off with IAR when they upgraded the 8051 compiler, I assume to bring it more in line with their other compilers. The upgrade was late coming, and traumatic...a major change where the new version was incompatible with the old version, even to the point where the endianess of stored ints and longs changed, and how bits were referenced. The promised conversion tools never happened, at least in a usable form, so I maintain two compilers, keeping the old version to maintain my old code. The new compiler is pretty impressive, more modern, offers Misra-C support and EC++, so I've kept my support agreement up to date.

I've gotten the impression from IAR on occasion that customer support wasn't their highest priority, in spite of the good support that I've experienced myself. For instance, IAR had a user forum on their website, a poor imitation of Keil's forum. The problem was a single forum for all their compilers (IAR covers a lot of ground in the microcontroller world) so there wasn't as much activity as a dedicated site, and no one from IAR appeared to monitor it. I spent quite a bit of time answering questions helping out where I could, but finally suggested to IAR that they might be better served by supporting their users in their own forum. Shortly after that they took down the forum, not quite what I had in mind.

A mixed review, I guess.

Dennis



List of 66 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Keil \\\'51 and AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
   AVR?            01/01/70 00:00      
      AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
      you got me, Atmel AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
   The standard compiler for the avr is avr-gcc            01/01/70 00:00      
      OH NO            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well, at least you do have the opportunity            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'll tell my boss that the project will get delaye            01/01/70 00:00      
               On the other hand            01/01/70 00:00      
                  part of the reason for this post            01/01/70 00:00      
         Do not use            01/01/70 00:00      
            michael some questions            01/01/70 00:00      
               partial answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                  actually            01/01/70 00:00      
               IAR...            01/01/70 00:00      
      used avr-gcc in the year 2000 and            01/01/70 00:00      
   Time to eat your words!            01/01/70 00:00      
      not really            01/01/70 00:00      
   you can save a lot of time if you create            01/01/70 00:00      
      very helpful, thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
   yes and if you can describe in more            01/01/70 00:00      
      ok, here we go            01/01/70 00:00      
         RESTATE PURPOSE of thread            01/01/70 00:00      
            What bugs???            01/01/70 00:00      
            I suggest Imagecraft C compiler            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ive found that gcc produces fast code and its free            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Worthless statistics            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the issue here is            01/01/70 00:00      
                        if I understand it right...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Not so strange?            01/01/70 00:00      
                              this is slightly different            01/01/70 00:00      
               GCC - over-strict ANSI?            01/01/70 00:00      
            CodeVision AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
               CodeVision - no Linker?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  No linker            01/01/70 00:00      
                     pray tell            01/01/70 00:00      
                        IAR            01/01/70 00:00      
                           sounds par for the course            01/01/70 00:00      
                     No linker with CodeVision AVR            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Both '51 and AVR at the same time?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                           8051 to AVR migration            01/01/70 00:00      
                              questions, misunderstandings, answers            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 so you have the solution?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    it's IAR            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Just for the AVR...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          I do not know, I did not ask            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             some snippets on AVRs...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                interesting, evidently they have taken upon themse            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   your link was broken            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      But what about 1 instead of I?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         this is not about mistypes, it is about missing            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            apparently, Atmel admits it...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               so where is the 51freaks equivalent            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  the "confirmation" is apparently...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               you just have to accept eric doesnt like atmel            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   or            01/01/70 00:00      
               bit variables on WINAVR            01/01/70 00:00      
                  using avrstudio and gcc generated .coff files            01/01/70 00:00      
   well, the whole story seems to be not            01/01/70 00:00      
      My experience            01/01/70 00:00      
   just a few words            01/01/70 00:00      
      SiLabs non-American?            01/01/70 00:00      
         not the chip, the board            01/01/70 00:00      
   WINAVR experience            01/01/70 00:00      
      WinAVR <=> GCC            01/01/70 00:00      

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