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06/13/08 19:20
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#155876 - 0.1uF ok then
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Ok, so...

"Check
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resou...oc4231.pdf
page 9 and 10. No 18MHz Xtal is in the table.
So, the auto baudrate routine does not lock and no ISP is possible.
Daniel"<-Good point but my training board has an 18.432MHz crystal and works flawlessly(I have its schematic too, and it doesn't use any frequency divider circuit etc after the xtal so I guees 18.432Mhz is suitable).

Hey theres another chap called Kai too :). Ah, I see 470uF is not suitable. It's a shame I didnt include 0.1uF decoupling capacitors (didn't include one even on the max232). Bad design! I'll make sure to include them. To be honest there was some noise on the micro pins (bout 500mVpp).

But what's the reason that 0.1uF is better than 470uF when it comes to high frequency noise? Hmmm...wait I have the art of electronics (Horrowits and Hill) I'll check that out. I'm pretty sure theres a formula somewhere that includes the dv/dt (rate of change of voltage) somewhere. Unfortunatley i don't have any other 89C51 microcontrollers (had 5 of em and uh.....all of em where destroyed during the debugging process....shame).

List of 45 messages in thread
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I'm getting insane! pls help!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do not know much about Arghmel, but            01/01/70 00:00      
      >Arghmel<, Erik, are you crazy?            01/01/70 00:00      
         fair warning to all            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks for the props but....            01/01/70 00:00      
      have you tried changing the chip            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yep            01/01/70 00:00      
      the Arghmel users should wake up soon            01/01/70 00:00      
         The Problem Often Is The ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'll try that            01/01/70 00:00      
               But....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What breed of MAX232?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     so...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Trainer Board            01/01/70 00:00      
                           um quite similar...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Your schema looks fine            01/01/70 00:00      
                           a strange thing has happened            01/01/70 00:00      
                              470uF            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Just wanted to state the same            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It would have to be a very good 470uF cap ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Richard??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What negative effect would that be?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       let's do that, you start            01/01/70 00:00      
                        DEAD wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
   Oh uh......            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wrong Xtal may be            01/01/70 00:00      
         0.1uF ok then            01/01/70 00:00      
            Are you sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I found a usable one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Did you find the reason            01/01/70 00:00      
                     still searching for the reason            01/01/70 00:00      
            Model of a capacitor            01/01/70 00:00      
         18.432MHz for Std Baud Rates ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Shorts,shorts,shorts,            01/01/70 00:00      
      Pictures?            01/01/70 00:00      
         why is that?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Just Curious            01/01/70 00:00      
               Hey uh Jon i had already removed all socketed ICs            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vss for logical chips SHOULD be ground            01/01/70 00:00      
         Stupid me, i meant Vcc not Vss            01/01/70 00:00      
         Let\'s call this a day            01/01/70 00:00      
            Good Luck!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Thank you all            01/01/70 00:00      
   Boot loader running?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'll try it tonight            01/01/70 00:00      

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