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06/14/08 13:20
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#155910 - Boot loader running?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Hi Kai,
After all the extensive testing you have done any suggestion may a long shot but perhaps worth revisiting.

Are you holding PSEN* low while you press the RESET and then let go of PSEN* a considerable time AFTER you release the RESET?
PSEN* needs to be LOW for some time after the RESET goes HIGH so that the micro forces the program counter to jump to the AT89C51AC2 Boot Loader.
If the boot loader is running, then Flip will be able to communicate with it if the rest of the hardware is ok.
May I suggest a current limited power supply so that you can limit the current to a reasonable level and serious shorts can be detected before serious damage is done.
Are you able to program the chip in some other system and then substitute it into your board. If you can, then program it to continuously send 'U' to the serial port. This binary sequence will allow you to check baud rates and debug hardware, at least in one direction.
I have used this particular micro and other derivitives in a multitude of applications with great success. Once you get Flip working try the Batch ISP in it,(all the commands which you use in Flip can be put into a text file and executed with one click!), it is magic! Although there are forum members who disagree, I have used a simple 2 transistor circuit and a couple of passive components for the serial port and has worked every time up to 115kBaud.

Good luck.
Tony

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I'm getting insane! pls help!            01/01/70 00:00      
   I do not know much about Arghmel, but            01/01/70 00:00      
      >Arghmel<, Erik, are you crazy?            01/01/70 00:00      
         fair warning to all            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks for the props but....            01/01/70 00:00      
      have you tried changing the chip            01/01/70 00:00      
   Yep            01/01/70 00:00      
      the Arghmel users should wake up soon            01/01/70 00:00      
         The Problem Often Is The ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            I'll try that            01/01/70 00:00      
               But....            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What breed of MAX232?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     so...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Trainer Board            01/01/70 00:00      
                           um quite similar...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Your schema looks fine            01/01/70 00:00      
                           a strange thing has happened            01/01/70 00:00      
                              470uF            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Just wanted to state the same            01/01/70 00:00      
                              It would have to be a very good 470uF cap ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Richard??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    What negative effect would that be?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       let's do that, you start            01/01/70 00:00      
                        DEAD wrong            01/01/70 00:00      
   Oh uh......            01/01/70 00:00      
      Wrong Xtal may be            01/01/70 00:00      
         0.1uF ok then            01/01/70 00:00      
            Are you sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
               I found a usable one            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Did you find the reason            01/01/70 00:00      
                     still searching for the reason            01/01/70 00:00      
            Model of a capacitor            01/01/70 00:00      
         18.432MHz for Std Baud Rates ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Shorts,shorts,shorts,            01/01/70 00:00      
      Pictures?            01/01/70 00:00      
         why is that?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Just Curious            01/01/70 00:00      
               Hey uh Jon i had already removed all socketed ICs            01/01/70 00:00      
      Vss for logical chips SHOULD be ground            01/01/70 00:00      
         Stupid me, i meant Vcc not Vss            01/01/70 00:00      
         Let\'s call this a day            01/01/70 00:00      
            Good Luck!            01/01/70 00:00      
               Thank you all            01/01/70 00:00      
   Boot loader running?            01/01/70 00:00      
      I'll try it tonight            01/01/70 00:00      

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