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04/11/05 00:26
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#91349 - Quality Accessories
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Yes Vigensh, we do have a problem of lousy components from the local market.

While on the subject of crystals, I have never come up with so many dud ones. Incidentally there is MUCH more to the physical distance and track layout of the crystal with reference to the MCU pins. You may care to check out http://www.8052.com/faq.phtml?FAQ=94 where Prahlad has compiled a list of useful tips on this and other issues with PCBs. Or maybe you could download the pdf from the Intel site " Oscillators for Microcontrollers" (AP-155) and learn all about the crystal stuff.

While the idea to use a dedicated oscillator is good, in most cases it may not be required if you manage to get the simple crystal going.

And just to reassure you on the number of erasures / reprograms on the Atmel chips, I can tell you this much : Most of times it is due to issues outside the flash. And though it appears like you have programmed it " many many " times, in effect it would not have been not more than a few hundreds at best. Each erasure and program download does take a few minutes, and if you care to mutliply it by 1000, you will realize what I am hinting at.

Kinldy note that the above is my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Raghu

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TopicAuthorDate
what will happen after..            01/01/70 00:00      
   Its all about reliability            01/01/70 00:00      
   Probabily            01/01/70 00:00      
   Lets hope it is this way....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Statistics            01/01/70 00:00      
         EPROMS            01/01/70 00:00      
            Hidden details            01/01/70 00:00      
   remarks            01/01/70 00:00      
      GAL counter history            01/01/70 00:00      
      is it ambiguous always?            01/01/70 00:00      
         A checkout code may help            01/01/70 00:00      
            Yes sir..            01/01/70 00:00      
               Quality Accessories            01/01/70 00:00      
                  thank you Sir...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Serial Cable.            01/01/70 00:00      
         ESD?            01/01/70 00:00      
            I dont think..            01/01/70 00:00      
               discharged??            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, Discharged..            01/01/70 00:00      
                     you just blew the chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Hmmm.. but here..            01/01/70 00:00      
                           making the best of a bad situation            01/01/70 00:00      
         programmer reject            01/01/70 00:00      
   Check out this site.            01/01/70 00:00      
      Intermittent problems due to            01/01/70 00:00      
         EARTHING PROBLEM ALSO CAN ..            01/01/70 00:00      
            sure.. will check that out..            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks Jerry..            01/01/70 00:00      
   my solution and some info            01/01/70 00:00      
   Not sure about FLASH, but EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      

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