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06/17/05 15:28
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#95181 - endurance - the 5/3V puzzle
Responding to: ???'s previous message
They can simply cheat.

They can simply implement the "walking write" in harware, hidden for the user, having multiple memory cells per "public" bit. Based on knowledge of the technology (which I don't have) this may imply less than linear increase of area.
This could also explain the relatively low densities of available memories (while AFAIK they are ,anufactured using a quite state-of-the-art 0.35um technology, allowing significantly bigger SRAMs...)
But more importantly this explains the difference in endurance between the 5V and 3V part - the lower voltage allows smaller geometry hence higher density...

But I don't know how to prove if this is true or not... (having not enough funds for a decent electron microscope... :-)

Something similar happens with modern superhigh dnsity hard disks - the increased error rate due to approaching physical limits is hidden using run-time remapping of faulty sectors..

Jan Waclawek

List of 22 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
89s52            01/01/70 00:00      
   similar to SRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
   IAP            01/01/70 00:00      
      Problem with IAP and 89c669            01/01/70 00:00      
         think            01/01/70 00:00      
   non-volatile ram            01/01/70 00:00      
   eeprom or nvram            01/01/70 00:00      
      ramtron            01/01/70 00:00      
         FRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
            5V FRAM/3V FRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
   how much data and how fast            01/01/70 00:00      
      Another simple possibility....            01/01/70 00:00      
         RAMTRON FRAMs + SPI, parallel            01/01/70 00:00      
   SRAM, NVRAM, FLASH, EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      
      FRAM            01/01/70 00:00      
         FRAM Life            01/01/70 00:00      
            FRAM life II.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Ramtron, Fujitsu, and others            01/01/70 00:00      
                  others?            01/01/70 00:00      
               FRAM life            01/01/70 00:00      
                  cycles            01/01/70 00:00      
                  endurance - the 5/3V puzzle            01/01/70 00:00      

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