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12/21/06 15:14
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 		 #129904 - I don't care how it is called...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... as long as it is clear what it is.

Regardless of whether it is useful or not, I see a significant difference between the "classical" ICE (where trace is possible or available), and serially-communicating debugger with on-chip support (which is where the SiLabs etc. fall), where a possibility for trace is limited or nil (there are also other nuances in which these two solutions differ, all of them important maybe in 1.23765% of cases).

I have no problem calling the latter "ICE" as long as there is some proper "extension" to the term "ICE", either for the former, or the latter, unambiguously differentiating the two.

I also see no problem calling a monitor-based solution "ICE", again as long as there is some indication that this is a completely different stuff than the previously mentioned two.

And I see no problem with establishing the terminology here, at this forum.

Any thoughts?

JW

PS I can't find the thread dealing with + and - of each of these debugging tools, please help

List of 48 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
C-compiler prices?            01/01/70 00:00      
   from $0 to $5000            01/01/70 00:00      
   ?from 100 to 300 "portable" ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      meaning what            01/01/70 00:00      
         "portable"            01/01/70 00:00      
            that is \"C\"            01/01/70 00:00      
            Portability - it's all down to you!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Are You sure?I'm not. Regards            01/01/70 00:00      
      sure of WHAT!            01/01/70 00:00      
   example            01/01/70 00:00      
      i would keep Franklin away with a 10 foot pole            01/01/70 00:00      
      What about www.dunfield.com $99 MicroC ?            01/01/70 00:00      
         What does it give you that SDCC doesn't?            01/01/70 00:00      
            I don't think Dave has had an upgrade            01/01/70 00:00      
               no upgrades might mean it is perfect... :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I somehow doubt that ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Richard, Dave's CFLEA is very interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Useful?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           usefull CFLEA vs            01/01/70 00:00      
                              I'd find it useful if it were Compact Flash ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        for WHAT            01/01/70 00:00      
                           interesting vs useful            01/01/70 00:00      
                              There is so much useful stuff that is interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
         OUCH            01/01/70 00:00      
            No?            01/01/70 00:00      
               $99            01/01/70 00:00      
                  What DDS gives you            01/01/70 00:00      
                     SDCC debugger            01/01/70 00:00      
                        i do not know about the Versa ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           even that's not REAL ICE...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              trace not a definition of ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 by thet definition...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    OK, expanded            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       I don't care how it is called...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          do not agree            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             you do agree but yoku don't now about it :-)))            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                an attempt at a definition of an ICE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   there's a "gotcha"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      of course not            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Monitor Types are more limited            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          Once upon a time ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             that is blatantly false            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                just a minute, there, Pilgrim ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   yes it is, but it is not running a monitor            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      I don't know what it's running ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Wickenhauser Elektrotechnik $99            01/01/70 00:00      
      well, amazinly enough you get what you pay for ..            01/01/70 00:00      
         TCP/IP stack            01/01/70 00:00      

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