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02/20/07 21:57
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#133369 - LEDs appear the same in all conditions
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Erik Malund said:
What you totally ignore is that "perceived brightness" is not absolute. "perceived brightness" is relative to ambient light.

In my previous example (LTJ-811 20mA@100% vs 25mA@50%) the LEDs will appear to have the same brightness (relative to each other) regardless of the ambient light. In the dark they look the same, and in bright light they look the same.

I accept that in direct sunlight neither of them might be bright enough to be useful in a sign, but I couldn't push the IF any further in the example because the info in the datasheet doesn't extend beyond IF=25mA, and I couldn't run the numbers without info on the (non-)linearity.

And I also accept that if you have to push the IF out beyond its linear region (to get maximum intensity) then reducing the duty cycle may not be viable because of the non-linearity.

What I am adamant about, however, is that multiplexing/reduced duty cycle is useful for more than just "saving ICs".

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TopicAuthorDate
Components for Outdoor LED Display            01/01/70 00:00      
   What are the specs?            01/01/70 00:00      
   you are already scewed            01/01/70 00:00      
      any better suggestions?            01/01/70 00:00      
         are your LEDs capable of 200mA ?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Human eye perception            01/01/70 00:00      
               percieved does not matter            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Perception is everything            01/01/70 00:00      
               LEDs are extremely nonlinear, too!            01/01/70 00:00      
                  I covered this            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I wrote -extremely non-linear-...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     that makes no sense            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Example with LTJ-811            01/01/70 00:00      
                           let the sunshine in            01/01/70 00:00      
                              LEDs appear the same in all conditions            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Err            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    actually we have one multiplexed, however            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    King of LEDS :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 mux vs. pulsed            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    better ask ERIK ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       well, this is not so 'new'            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       more bright than outdoor....            01/01/70 00:00      
   why I want to multiplex            01/01/70 00:00      
      assumption?            01/01/70 00:00      
         the way multiplexing works            01/01/70 00:00      
            what is required?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Requirements are what you should analyze            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Backwards?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     low-side cap, low-side NPN            01/01/70 00:00      
                        One-bit memory == DC filter ???            01/01/70 00:00      
                           slow decay            01/01/70 00:00      
                              you can have NONE            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 are you sure?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    yes, I am, yes I have            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I agree with Erik ... at least somewhat            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    I am still CURIOUS            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       it's like a camera flash            01/01/70 00:00      
      already answered http://www.8052.com/forum/read.ph            01/01/70 00:00      
         Averages            01/01/70 00:00      
   does the A6278 LED driver multiplex too?            01/01/70 00:00      
      if you want to make a nonmultiplexed display...            01/01/70 00:00      
         that clears up a lot            01/01/70 00:00      
            sorry            01/01/70 00:00      

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