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05/02/07 08:37
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#138440 - why not?
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Per Guldmann said:
From the DS89C430/440/450 spec. sheet:

Output low voltage Port 1 and 3: 0.15V at IOL 1.6 mA

So you cant drive a led directly.

But, why not? Today's high-efficiency LEDs give out enough light at 1mA, certainly much more than needed for simple indication of state, especially under controlled laboratory conditions (read: no direct sunlight).

Andy Neil said:
That 1.6mA is a Test Condition for measuring Vol - it is not a rating for the pin's current capability!


Given there are no other data, IMHO it is safe to assume the pin _withstands_ any current resulting from application of any voltage within the range given by the Absolute Maximum ratings. This should not come as a surprise for a modern driver NMOS with typical ON resistance of some 100 Ohm. Although in a commercial design I certainly wouldn't do it without explicitly asking the manufacturer, I assume it would be quite safe to put there a LED directly without any series resistance (and expect around 3mA current flow into it).

JW


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   Keil gives error on your construct            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: error            01/01/70 00:00      
         a guess            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: guess            01/01/70 00:00      
               humm humm            01/01/70 00:00      
                  re: humming            01/01/70 00:00      
   PS            01/01/70 00:00      
      have you tried the simulator?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: LED            01/01/70 00:00      
            HUH???            01/01/70 00:00      
               again a HLL habit, isn't it...            01/01/70 00:00      
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               Whoops.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Dummy Interupt            01/01/70 00:00      
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                     Niiice            01/01/70 00:00      
   you could solve a lot of problems if....            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thanks, but...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Back to square one?            01/01/70 00:00      
      blinkenlight            01/01/70 00:00      
         Get a \'scope!            01/01/70 00:00      
         More hints            01/01/70 00:00      
         Re: hints            01/01/70 00:00      
            I am sure it is published            01/01/70 00:00      
   Gah.            01/01/70 00:00      
      read the right spec            01/01/70 00:00      
         specs            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not a spec            01/01/70 00:00      
               why not?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Proviso            01/01/70 00:00      
                     just a small remark            01/01/70 00:00      
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   Huzzah!            01/01/70 00:00      
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      I find that hard to beleive!            01/01/70 00:00      
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