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05/18/06 08:26
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#116472 - on programming tools, clocks and other
Responding to: ???'s previous message
In the '51 world, there is one nice thing - compatibility. There is a zillion of derivatives around, not only having possibly higher clock, but also increasing performance by using a different architecture - simply less clocks per instruction cycle. The "classic" '51 uses 12, as your 'S8252 does. You've mentioned the x2 mode in the 'S8253, which is in fact a 6-clock core with a /2 prescaler which is by default on. There are also 4-clock, 2-clock and 1-clock derivatives around (with 4- and 1-clock having NOT the same number of instruction cycles per instruction as the "classic" '51 has). <shameless advertising>See the overview on my 8052.com homepage</shameless advertising>. And the good news is, that some of the faster ones are pin-compatible drop-in replacements (the legendary Dallas DS80C320, DS89C4x0, the RD2 sub-family). The DS89C4x0 and the RD2's are in-situ programmable via UART, you need no "programmer" etc.

Of course, if you just want to have fun, you can go for the overclocking - buy a bunch of crystals and try increasing the freq. You have been warned more than enough, though... :-)))

Jan Waclawek



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TopicAuthorDate
8052 overclocking            01/01/70 00:00      
   The absolutely complete answer is            01/01/70 00:00      
      its a definate maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
      Ideas...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Guarantees            01/01/70 00:00      
      i think Jeroen is an amateur            01/01/70 00:00      
   Even PC Overclockers know....            01/01/70 00:00      
      but PC overclockers also know            01/01/70 00:00      
         buying a 40MHz XTAL?            01/01/70 00:00      
         So get a faster one.            01/01/70 00:00      
         no need for overclocking !            01/01/70 00:00      
            more global            01/01/70 00:00      
            how to program            01/01/70 00:00      
               on programming tools, clocks and other            01/01/70 00:00      
               bootloader devices            01/01/70 00:00      
                  don't forget the Dallas devices            01/01/70 00:00      
         that's not quite true ... sadly enough            01/01/70 00:00      
   Entertaiment            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can you post that schematic?            01/01/70 00:00      
      How much performance did you squeeze out            01/01/70 00:00      
   Over-52-ing            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes well critical paths            01/01/70 00:00      
      Flash is a little slow...            01/01/70 00:00      
         well, it "is" possible            01/01/70 00:00      
            wide/interleaved FLASH            01/01/70 00:00      
               caching            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no cache, but prefetch            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the difference            01/01/70 00:00      
                        this is how your childhood is dying            01/01/70 00:00      
                           the 2 meanings            01/01/70 00:00      
   many devices do not need a "programming            01/01/70 00:00      
   Re: 8051 o/clock...            01/01/70 00:00      
      gobbelygook            01/01/70 00:00      
         working like crazy :-)))            01/01/70 00:00      
            I under clocked once...            01/01/70 00:00      

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