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05/23/06 19:20
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#116972 - that's not quite true ... sadly enough
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The Pentium overclocking ventures clearly proved that overclocking is, at best, risky.

I once had responsibility for proving just that, and it took less than a day and 60 identical systems to prove it. Once they were up to temperature, monitoring showed that as many as 1/3 of the machines, all of which were exactly identical in their equipment and configuration, behaved differently from the others when all were subjected to the same clock setup and fed the same keyboard and mouse inputs. Even fairly elementary DOS-based operations "fell apart" even when the clock setting was only one step above the "official" rating, once the systems were stressed and had been brought up to maximum allowable temperature (25C) which seldom is the maximum to which commercial quality systems are, in fact, driven. Fortunately, I didn't have to prove that they always failed, just that they occasionally failed.

Just because two out of three MCU's can exceed their specified clock rate limit for a short time and on a limited instruction and data set doesn't mean that they can properly execute every combination of instructions in every possible location in their memory, both internal and external, on every possible combination of data. It certainly doesn't mean that 20 out of 30 will do that, and absolutely doesn't guarantee that 200 out of 300, coming from different lots, will work in that way.

Go ahead if you're willing to gamble, but please let me know if you ever design a commercial product that way, so I can avoid it, and every other product from that mfg.

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8052 overclocking            01/01/70 00:00      
   The absolutely complete answer is            01/01/70 00:00      
      its a definate maybe            01/01/70 00:00      
      Ideas...            01/01/70 00:00      
   Guarantees            01/01/70 00:00      
      i think Jeroen is an amateur            01/01/70 00:00      
   Even PC Overclockers know....            01/01/70 00:00      
      but PC overclockers also know            01/01/70 00:00      
         buying a 40MHz XTAL?            01/01/70 00:00      
         So get a faster one.            01/01/70 00:00      
         no need for overclocking !            01/01/70 00:00      
            more global            01/01/70 00:00      
            how to program            01/01/70 00:00      
               on programming tools, clocks and other            01/01/70 00:00      
               bootloader devices            01/01/70 00:00      
                  don't forget the Dallas devices            01/01/70 00:00      
         that's not quite true ... sadly enough            01/01/70 00:00      
   Entertaiment            01/01/70 00:00      
      Can you post that schematic?            01/01/70 00:00      
      How much performance did you squeeze out            01/01/70 00:00      
   Over-52-ing            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes well critical paths            01/01/70 00:00      
      Flash is a little slow...            01/01/70 00:00      
         well, it "is" possible            01/01/70 00:00      
            wide/interleaved FLASH            01/01/70 00:00      
               caching            01/01/70 00:00      
                  no cache, but prefetch            01/01/70 00:00      
                     the difference            01/01/70 00:00      
                        this is how your childhood is dying            01/01/70 00:00      
                           the 2 meanings            01/01/70 00:00      
   many devices do not need a "programming            01/01/70 00:00      
   Re: 8051 o/clock...            01/01/70 00:00      
      gobbelygook            01/01/70 00:00      
         working like crazy :-)))            01/01/70 00:00      
            I under clocked once...            01/01/70 00:00      

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