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 		 #124996 - The newer they are, the faster they become...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
The newer the micros are, the faster they become and the more they suffer from avoiding a HF-design. Or, by other words, DIL40-package and ZIF-socket is not the right stuff to run an AT89S8252 at 24MHz. It could be, that the oscillator refuses to start, because of unsane inductivity of connections between chip, the quartz and the burden caps. Also, it's difficult to properly decouple Vcc of micro, when using a ZIF-socket. I guess, the AT89S8252 will properly work with a suited layout.

Try to avoid these DIL40-packages! They are a thing of the past. Try to use PLCC, at least.

Could you give us a picture of your board, with the ZIF?

Kai

List of 52 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
AT89S8252-24PI            01/01/70 00:00      
   Questions            01/01/70 00:00      
      Better answer            01/01/70 00:00      
         The newer they are, the faster they become...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Pictures            01/01/70 00:00      
               try a reset cct            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Reset Generator            01/01/70 00:00      
                     read the reset spec's for your part            01/01/70 00:00      
                        RC-reset circuitry is always critical!            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Doing the math            01/01/70 00:00      
                              a confusion            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I don't like 'em, but it's built into the DS89C4x0            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Power-on problem reported for DS89C440!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 They're discontinuing the '440 anyway ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Trouble with inproper reset circuits            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Interesting ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    This is why....            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       why heresy            01/01/70 00:00      
                              already comented in other thread            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Still not completely relevant.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    apples and oranges.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don\'t            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    reset FAQ            01/01/70 00:00      
               Can publish it for you            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Here comes the picture...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Picture            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Isn't needed at VPP            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Solder side            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Second attempt            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Ok, last try            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Hmmm            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Picture of solder side            01/01/70 00:00      
                              a few quick tests            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 bigger cap\'s maybe?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Yes Marcia, they do oscillate!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       Who's Marcia?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's like op-amp's            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Required equipment            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    it MUST go            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       p0 not a good idea            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          check with a scope AND a pullup, then :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
   Re: questions            01/01/70 00:00      
      programmer            01/01/70 00:00      
   try it with a decent reset IC            01/01/70 00:00      
   Possible solution            01/01/70 00:00      
      Possible solution?            01/01/70 00:00      
      "Increase your org?" What does that mean?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Sorry Russ,            01/01/70 00:00      
            no it has not            01/01/70 00:00      
               what he means is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  ORG. $25??            01/01/70 00:00      
                     aren't you fortunate            01/01/70 00:00      

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