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02/21/07 20:27
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#133463 - keep splitting :-)
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Caslav Nedeljkovic said:
Because I can name a few situations where your suggested pinout for cable (e.g. tiebacks) will fail since full hardware handshake IS required between two DTE devices and by 'faking' them on either side you'll interfere with their normal operation.



Correct, but I also have seen (in the past 20 years) a number of situations where one had to "fool" the application in order to make it work.

Basically the RS232 was made to allow communication between modem (DCE) and terminal (DTE). If you connect two DTE's you have a number of alternatives to make it work. It all depends on the DTE's involved and their internal working. Some need DCD, some don,'t. Others need DCD and DSR, others don't. Some require DCD, DSR and CTS... others don't. Some don't require handshaking and flow control at all, others use X-On/X-off (inband flow control), and others can take anything... Just to say there is no general rule. It's a matter of reading the device specs, as it is with any microcontroller...
regards

Patrick

List of 30 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
how do we test whether MAX232 is working            01/01/70 00:00      
   V+ and V-            01/01/70 00:00      
   Can I conclude then...            01/01/70 00:00      
      checking for working of serial port            01/01/70 00:00      
         You have excluded the most obvious first?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Be sure the cable is wired correctly            01/01/70 00:00      
      3 Wire            01/01/70 00:00      
         That doesn't seem to work with my old notebook            01/01/70 00:00      
            Configure the terminal program correctly            01/01/70 00:00      
               So far, It's never been an issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's the application, not the PC            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's the application, not the PC            01/01/70 00:00      
         I have routinely done this in the past            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ive seen it working...            01/01/70 00:00      
               You missed my point            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Better safe than sorry, Eh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it's not all in the application            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but the OP stated            01/01/70 00:00      
                           True enough ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Now, now, we don\'t split hair do we?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           keep splitting :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I've been fiddling with RS232 connections ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Ok, enough of twist and turn....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I don\\\'t see what\\\'s not straight about this            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This has gone far enough.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Guys, guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                              OK ,,, I see what you mean            01/01/70 00:00      
   @site administrator            01/01/70 00:00      
   @site administrator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Again... What was the solution?            01/01/70 00:00      

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