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02/21/07 23:48
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#133476 - Ok, enough of twist and turn....
Responding to: ???'s previous message
To make life easier, please, tell me with which of the following assertion you don't concur? For your reference I've added numbers before each of them.

1) PCs rs232 port can (note, it is can not should or must) be used for communication using only 3 wires.

This is opposed to your statement
PC's require special wiring, i.e. pins 4 and 5, and pins 6, 8, and 20 (based on the DB25 model) have to be connected together, else the PC won't talk.
because it refers only to situation where partial or full handshaking is required.

2) By using tiebacks you can disrupt intended functionality of rs232 communication if by hardware/software design this communication requires additional signaling.

This is opposed to your statement
The ones that don't need the signals generally ignore 'em.
because you haven't explain what happens if signals are needed and you fake them.

3) Tiebacks are most common way of wiring rs232 cable, but that doesn't mean that it is the only way to wire it.

This is to answer your question
I wonder why so many EVB's have those tiebacks etched into the board?
because most common way doesn't mean 'the only way'.

4) Which part of the following table you don't understand or object to (apart from using DB9 nomenclature): http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info....html#conc

This is opposed to your argument
for over 30 years, and haven't yet encountered one that wouldn't tolerate this tieback scheme.
because if you check the table you'll see where it won't work.

I hope you'll give me some straight answers this time.

Best luck,
CN

List of 30 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
how do we test whether MAX232 is working            01/01/70 00:00      
   V+ and V-            01/01/70 00:00      
   Can I conclude then...            01/01/70 00:00      
      checking for working of serial port            01/01/70 00:00      
         You have excluded the most obvious first?            01/01/70 00:00      
   Be sure the cable is wired correctly            01/01/70 00:00      
      3 Wire            01/01/70 00:00      
         That doesn't seem to work with my old notebook            01/01/70 00:00      
            Configure the terminal program correctly            01/01/70 00:00      
               So far, It's never been an issue            01/01/70 00:00      
                  It's the application, not the PC            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's the application, not the PC            01/01/70 00:00      
         I have routinely done this in the past            01/01/70 00:00      
            Ive seen it working...            01/01/70 00:00      
               You missed my point            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Better safe than sorry, Eh?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     it's not all in the application            01/01/70 00:00      
                        but the OP stated            01/01/70 00:00      
                           True enough ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Now, now, we don\'t split hair do we?            01/01/70 00:00      
                           keep splitting :-)            01/01/70 00:00      
                           I've been fiddling with RS232 connections ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Ok, enough of twist and turn....            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I don\\\'t see what\\\'s not straight about this            01/01/70 00:00      
                           This has gone far enough.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Guys, guys            01/01/70 00:00      
                              OK ,,, I see what you mean            01/01/70 00:00      
   @site administrator            01/01/70 00:00      
   @site administrator            01/01/70 00:00      
      Again... What was the solution?            01/01/70 00:00      

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