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10/09/07 21:12
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 		 #145563 - chips
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Thanks, Jan!

I looked at the FAQ. I don't see why it's so hard to just have one pin that you send high or low to gain raw access to the memory. (Jeez ~:\ )

OK, let's say the middle group (89C51RD2-family, ADuC8xx, DS89C4x0, high-end P89LPC9xx) is the one to go with. Being a purist, I would prefer to at least THEORETICALLY be able to program the chip without a computer, but that doesn't seem possible as yet.

The FAQ mentions that the serial hardware can be present on the chip. Let's assume that I can access my PC's ports with PERL. What, if any, serious hardware is there between the chip and the PC? How do you initiate programming?

BTW, May I assume that "Start here.", toward the bottom of your message was intended to point here: <http://www.8052.com/tutorial.phtml> ?

List of 39 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
8051 nuts and bolts?            01/01/70 00:00      
   start here            01/01/70 00:00      
      chips            01/01/70 00:00      
         THEORETICALLY            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well            01/01/70 00:00      
            masochism            01/01/70 00:00      
               even on a desert island...            01/01/70 00:00      
               As some other members would put it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I rest my case            01/01/70 00:00      
                  insight            01/01/70 00:00      
                     UART ISP.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     don't forget the level convertor            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Level Converter            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Level converter            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Damage?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 The datasheet will tell you.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              not commonly called "level converter"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 More than just a level converter!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a true level converter            01/01/70 00:00      
         Programming without a computer            01/01/70 00:00      
            pdp-11's            01/01/70 00:00      
               "escalating up to their "world-class" support" fun            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Book            01/01/70 00:00      
      Good One            01/01/70 00:00      
   Bible?            01/01/70 00:00      
      technical            01/01/70 00:00      
         PC vs 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Whadya think about this?            01/01/70 00:00      
      no, this is for the AT89S...            01/01/70 00:00      
         FAQ            01/01/70 00:00      
            better stick to the UART-ISP version            01/01/70 00:00      
         wrapped in pink cotton and 'politically correct'            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not at all!            01/01/70 00:00      
            ATMEL?            01/01/70 00:00      
               reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
   ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
      ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
      No, but do not worry about it            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE:Programming without computer            01/01/70 00:00      

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