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10/09/07 21:56
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 		 #145568 - even on a desert island...
Responding to: ???'s previous message
... to program a '51, you'd need at least a good knife.

McGyver

PS Actually, ALL the derivatives you listed are UART-ISP-able (although the details differ - have a peek at my website there's a comparison chart regarding ISP, listing most of what you mentioned), so you might be quite well off with a teletype... well, sort of. But a dummy alphanumeric terminal would certainly do.

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TopicAuthorDate
8051 nuts and bolts?            01/01/70 00:00      
   start here            01/01/70 00:00      
      chips            01/01/70 00:00      
         THEORETICALLY            01/01/70 00:00      
         Well            01/01/70 00:00      
            masochism            01/01/70 00:00      
               even on a desert island...            01/01/70 00:00      
               As some other members would put it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I rest my case            01/01/70 00:00      
                  insight            01/01/70 00:00      
                     UART ISP.            01/01/70 00:00      
                     don't forget the level convertor            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Level Converter            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Level converter            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Damage?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 The datasheet will tell you.            01/01/70 00:00      
                              not commonly called "level converter"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 More than just a level converter!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    a true level converter            01/01/70 00:00      
         Programming without a computer            01/01/70 00:00      
            pdp-11's            01/01/70 00:00      
               "escalating up to their "world-class" support" fun            01/01/70 00:00      
   A Book            01/01/70 00:00      
      Good One            01/01/70 00:00      
   Bible?            01/01/70 00:00      
      technical            01/01/70 00:00      
         PC vs 8051            01/01/70 00:00      
   Whadya think about this?            01/01/70 00:00      
      no, this is for the AT89S...            01/01/70 00:00      
         FAQ            01/01/70 00:00      
            better stick to the UART-ISP version            01/01/70 00:00      
         wrapped in pink cotton and 'politically correct'            01/01/70 00:00      
            Not at all!            01/01/70 00:00      
            ATMEL?            01/01/70 00:00      
               reasons            01/01/70 00:00      
   ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
      ISP            01/01/70 00:00      
      No, but do not worry about it            01/01/70 00:00      
   RE:Programming without computer            01/01/70 00:00      

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