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04/16/05 10:14
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#91722 - Absolute rubbish Oleg
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Well, as about clock. Multiplifier CPLD realization may or may not require a clock. When clock is not involved then synthesis implements the function with pure logic - just a cascade of summators with many carryes expansions. It all results with huge logic and slow result time.
When clock is utilized then process is implemented using pipeline, i.e. "shift-[hold]-sum" method. It may or may not increase the logic cells usage but surely decreases the time of result. Indeed, the result time is very depended on clock frequency then. It is because all pipeline stages are changed with clock ratio. So when clock is slow then you may not obtain good time anyway.


Can we just clear something up? what you are saying here is rubbish

1, Using a clock for a multiplier does not infer a pipelined multiplier.
2, A 10 bit multiplier as a single block of logic is not huge as I tried to show it takes about 190 LE's
3, The resulting multiplier is not slow and certainly using a standard cpld speeds of at least 70 Mhz are easily achieved.
4, Nobody uses Altera 7000 cplds for new designs.
5, I cannot remember what other rubish you wrote something about costing $30-80
But please just stop writting stuff about things you clearly know nothing about.Its annoying it confuses the issues it doesnt help.


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Fast Square.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Square dancing            01/01/70 00:00      
      table lookup???            01/01/70 00:00      
   code & algorithm            01/01/70 00:00      
      16*16 bit is slower than what I want.            01/01/70 00:00      
         How fast?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: How Fast            01/01/70 00:00      
               ... probably impossible in 15 cycles            01/01/70 00:00      
                  why cycles ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Re: Microseconds            01/01/70 00:00      
                  table lookup            01/01/70 00:00      
   Natsemi appnote or CORDIC            01/01/70 00:00      
      Natsemi link to appnote            01/01/70 00:00      
   (a+b)^2=a^2+2*a*b+b^2            01/01/70 00:00      
      Thats Slow.            01/01/70 00:00      
         faster need hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
         How fast do you need?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Re: How Fast.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Just?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Incorrect            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Correct?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Whooooopa... Sorry.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
                        I tried...            01/01/70 00:00      
                  optimum? table driven            01/01/70 00:00      
      Jan metod            01/01/70 00:00      
   Hardware?            01/01/70 00:00      
      CPLD?            01/01/70 00:00      
   SILabs f12x does it in hardware            01/01/70 00:00      
      Re: SiLabs F12x            01/01/70 00:00      
   Price            01/01/70 00:00      
      F12x price            01/01/70 00:00      
         F12x MAC            01/01/70 00:00      
            provided in the datasheet            01/01/70 00:00      
   Just out of interest            01/01/70 00:00      
      clarification            01/01/70 00:00      
      CPLD?            01/01/70 00:00      
         too expensive            01/01/70 00:00      
            Absolute rubbish Oleg            01/01/70 00:00      
               explain            01/01/70 00:00      
               your right            01/01/70 00:00      
            especially for those...            01/01/70 00:00      
               I need to say this....            01/01/70 00:00      
               By the way.....            01/01/70 00:00      
   just a demo            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hang on.            01/01/70 00:00      
   Oh bollocks            01/01/70 00:00      
   Well oleg            01/01/70 00:00      
      Please check my answer.            01/01/70 00:00      
         Here you go            01/01/70 00:00      
            You're having me on.            01/01/70 00:00      
               Pascal?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Pascal?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why ?            01/01/70 00:00      
               It was changed because,,,            01/01/70 00:00      
               Its because            01/01/70 00:00      
   For Jez            01/01/70 00:00      
      For Michael            01/01/70 00:00      
   simulation            01/01/70 00:00      
   Re: Fast Square            01/01/70 00:00      
   Prahlad, waithing for a conclusion            01/01/70 00:00      
      just an exercise...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Tricky            01/01/70 00:00      
         Jez asked his cat, I asked my sheep            01/01/70 00:00      
      Conclusion.            01/01/70 00:00      
      SPI EEPROM            01/01/70 00:00      

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