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06/20/05 13:00
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#95346 - T51 limitations
Responding to: ???'s previous message
http://www.e.kth.se/~e93_daw/vhdl/download/T51_0148.zip -> I8052.vhd said:
-- Limitations :
-- Most ports, peripherals, registers and interrupts are missing
http://www.e.kth.se/~e93_daw/vhdl/download/T51_0148.zip -> T51.vhd said:
-- Limitations :
-- No MUL, no DIV, no external RAM memory, only one interrupt


Hummmmmm...
OK, one cannot have everything, especially for free :-)
I expect that with commercial core (or if I pay Jez the "vast amounts of cash" :-) I get it all.

However, I still feel, that this would not yield a complete hi-speed microcontroller. Usually, there is no real ROM (notabene FLASH) inside FPGAs. For >33MHz 1-clock operation, the trick is to (pre)fetch in parallel. That means to have attached a 16- or 32-bit wide FLASH (and memory interface) and the appropriate logic inside the (soft)core. To reduce penalty from missing pre-fetch when jumping, they also implement jump-caches, an another feature to be added. So the implementation seems to be much more complicated task than to write a functional core.

Still, my question, what is the advantage of a single-chip solution (either Zylogic or FPGA+softcore) over the two-chip '51+FPGA?

Jan Waclawek

List of 29 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
ASIC '51s and speed            01/01/70 00:00      
   Zylogic?            01/01/70 00:00      
      probably not            01/01/70 00:00      
      why not look..            01/01/70 00:00      
         Details please?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Details            01/01/70 00:00      
               T51 limitations            01/01/70 00:00      
                  t51 limitations,not quite            01/01/70 00:00      
                     so running from RAM            01/01/70 00:00      
                        TCL and all that            01/01/70 00:00      
                  other case, probabl same answer            01/01/70 00:00      
                     very interesting!            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Advantages of single-chip            01/01/70 00:00      
                           Fundamental flaw            01/01/70 00:00      
   Final thought            01/01/70 00:00      
   use two            01/01/70 00:00      
      better one superfast            01/01/70 00:00      
         Pitfall?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Multi cpu pitfalls            01/01/70 00:00      
      Hardware delegation?            01/01/70 00:00      
         2 questions            01/01/70 00:00      
            Why are you obsesed with zylogic?            01/01/70 00:00      
               Obsessed? moi!            01/01/70 00:00      
   well            01/01/70 00:00      
   Thanks, but no thanks            01/01/70 00:00      
      uPSD            01/01/70 00:00      
         sorry, no            01/01/70 00:00      
   FYI - Hitex 8051 SoC kit            01/01/70 00:00      
      nice, will check            01/01/70 00:00      

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