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02/23/06 13:30
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#110584 - more oranges
Responding to: ???'s previous message
you ask, "What good does it do to have a fantastic piece of equipment if it can not communicate with what it is supposes to communicate with such as a PC?"

to which I reply, What good is a piece of async comm gear that can't do anything but communicate async?

Of course, but what do you have to select the crystal to match? I know of no (except for "dual interface, and that is not even "processing") case where the use of a UART crystal hinder "processing", but I know legio cases where a non-UART crystal hinder "communicating".

BTW, it's clearly not a typo ... the word you keep misspelling is "babbling," not "babbeling."
Thanks for the correction My second language (English) is, by no means, perfect.

If you use mode-0 with a somewhat faster than 12 MHz one-clocker, you can stuff your data into that T1 frame.
I doubt very much the "trunk administartor" would let me do that, for some reason, he insist that I use "storebought" interfaces (I would, were I him). Since all "storebought" interfaces, much to your chargrin, have decide to, gasp, adhere to an established standard, I have to use a UART crystal where I communicate with such.

anyhow, you refer occsionally to "what I do" a short list:
I receive 115k 485 from a PDA
I receive 9600/57600/115000/460000 RS232/RS422/RS485 from PCs
I communicate via RS485/RS232/J1708/IBIS/CAN with VLUs
I receive 115k 485 from a wireless modem with 811 processing
I receive J1708 status from automotive devices
I control automotive devices over J1708/IBIS
I receive data from PLCs, mostly RS485
I communicate with an XBOX etherenet I/F (in standard bauds)
I write to a VFD in standard bauds
I communicate serially standard UART with GPS units
I communicate serially standard UART with dead recogning units where the GPS can not get data

The above is my I/O (some always, some optional)- and the, in your opinion, stupid designers have decided to adhere to an established standard. The I/O is probably less than 5% of what I do but that decides my clock

For the remaining 95% I "live" with the clock I use and I know it just kills you that that may not be "convenient". From my viewpoint, it may cost me 0.01% more development time and cost me 0.1% efficiency, but HORRAY, my thing actually works as specified.

Erik





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UART not used or UART mode 0            01/01/70 00:00      
   me neither            01/01/70 00:00      
   mode 0            01/01/70 00:00      
   Maybe you'd best go back and reread ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      Well,            01/01/70 00:00      
   mode 0 totally different !            01/01/70 00:00      
      You're right, but what that means is ...            01/01/70 00:00      
         Why on earth?            01/01/70 00:00      
            You've lost me here ...            01/01/70 00:00      
               SPI meaning            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Yes, I knew that, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     MODE 0 is "SPI"            01/01/70 00:00      
                        in fact            01/01/70 00:00      
               UART?            01/01/70 00:00      
               It is not about what you use.            01/01/70 00:00      
                  You give 'em what they want ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                     I never argued against using mode 0            01/01/70 00:00      
                        That was never a topic of discussion.            01/01/70 00:00      
                           you do not get it, do you            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Why is T2 able to do that if ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 This is getting real tiresome you keep r            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Well ... maybe you should look at one            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       neither have I            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          It's the DA15 connector.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             I have had enough vitamins            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Oh! Now I get it ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   I have said in virtually every post in t            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      Async isn't the only way to do it.            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         Oh boy            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            What on earth is your definition            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               what in the world does that matter?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  can't have it both ways ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     I do not have illusions of grandeur and            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        OK ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           more oranges            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              It depends on where it fits            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 Horsefeathers, there is nothing "relativ            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    Not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                       Talking out of both sides of the mouth            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                          Consider this ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                             Just one thing, please, when stating thi            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                                It's always a tradeoff ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           look forward, not backward !            01/01/70 00:00      
   Debugging            01/01/70 00:00      
      the ICEman cometh            01/01/70 00:00      
   Never mode 0            01/01/70 00:00      
      I think that's a narrow view.            01/01/70 00:00      
         what is narrow???            01/01/70 00:00      
   uart mode 0 application            01/01/70 00:00      

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