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06/16/08 04:38
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#155938 - If this scheme is used it would also be well to...
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Any scheme that increases the impedance from a chip back to the outputs of the power supply is sure to have some tradeoffs. If the MAX232 is in this condition then series impedance in the supply lines will have some effect on the efficiency and ability of the device to recover to transient load changes. Series filtering the device right at its switching frequency starves the device where it needs the lowest impedance.

I would offer up the suggestion that if one is having serious problems with one of the garden variety MAX232 charge pump level translators or other similar chips such as one of the currently popular high voltage LED converters or EL backlight supply devices then a better way to isolate the device than putting series resistors in its supply leads would be to use one of the following two methods.

A) Provide a near by local regulation for the MAX232 with a separate VR than that used for other parts of the circuit board. This separate VR could also be deployed to supply current for LEDs and other similar higher current loads like those I mentioned above.

B) Locate the offending device(s) close to the main VR and then filter the remaining more sensitive devices down wind of the VR through a pi-filter made of a series of appropriately selected multi-layer inductors and low ESR capacitors to GND.

Michael Karas


List of 31 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Resistance in the supply rails            01/01/70 00:00      
   inductor instead of resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes, and no and I think the theory is flawed            01/01/70 00:00      
         Spice?            01/01/70 00:00      
            That would probably help, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's what I said            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not in the gnd path!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well ... this normally doesn't work so well, but            01/01/70 00:00      
   If this scheme is used it would also be well to...            01/01/70 00:00      
      This does increase the supply impedance            01/01/70 00:00      
         please clarify with a simple schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            the bypass cap\'s always go between Vcc and Gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
               Which Vcc, Which gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a cap on either side of the resistor(s)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is it            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not quite ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           don't use a resistor in the GND connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                              What >good reason< could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What good reason could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Using a resistor in the GND connection...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              How would that come to pass?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why should I insert a resistor in the GND line??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Seldom andonly if it is of benefit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No disagree, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The regulator can't pull the Vcc down            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             This has nothing to do with imbalance!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Kai, I don\'t disagree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again, do not add any impedance in the GND line            01/01/70 00:00      
   tantalum capacitor across the MAX232 power pins            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's a matter of careful choice            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes they does            01/01/70 00:00      

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