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06/21/08 00:24
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#156080 - Why should I insert a resistor in the GND line??
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Richard, why inserting a resistor in the GND line, at all? In my opinion this is entirely useless. Usually, everything is done to decrease the impedance of GND, by using one or even more solid ground planes, additional GND pins per chip package, paralleling of ground vias, etc. Everything, to decrease ground bounce and ground noise as much as ever possible. Why the hell now introducing again GND impedances, or even inductances??? What do you hope to filter out by these impedances? I don't see any benefit, but just the opposite!!

You can add GND impedances, if two separate parts have to be connected to another, which are not referenced to the same GND potential. Something like common mode fitering, etc. But here, you have a chip that is referenced to the one and only GND potential, with inputs referenced to the one and only GND potential. This chip even doesn't provide symmetrical inputs, which could remove GND noise. Think about fast edges hitting the chip. Additional GND impedances would only result in increased ground bounce and destroyed noise margins. Why should I ever do this??

Kai

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Resistance in the supply rails            01/01/70 00:00      
   inductor instead of resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes, and no and I think the theory is flawed            01/01/70 00:00      
         Spice?            01/01/70 00:00      
            That would probably help, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's what I said            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not in the gnd path!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well ... this normally doesn't work so well, but            01/01/70 00:00      
   If this scheme is used it would also be well to...            01/01/70 00:00      
      This does increase the supply impedance            01/01/70 00:00      
         please clarify with a simple schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            the bypass cap\'s always go between Vcc and Gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
               Which Vcc, Which gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a cap on either side of the resistor(s)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is it            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not quite ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           don't use a resistor in the GND connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                              What >good reason< could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What good reason could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Using a resistor in the GND connection...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              How would that come to pass?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why should I insert a resistor in the GND line??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Seldom andonly if it is of benefit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No disagree, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The regulator can't pull the Vcc down            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             This has nothing to do with imbalance!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Kai, I don\'t disagree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again, do not add any impedance in the GND line            01/01/70 00:00      
   tantalum capacitor across the MAX232 power pins            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's a matter of careful choice            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes they does            01/01/70 00:00      

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