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06/23/08 20:29
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 +1 Good Answer/Helpful		 #156136 - This has nothing to do with imbalance!
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Richard said:
Now, since the same voltage is flowing out the GND pin via S3 as flows in via S1, doesn't the current in GND via C4 alter this balance?
Divergent timing throughout the chip can also shift the phase between what's happening on the charge pump and what's happening on the inverter. If all the cap's and switches were perfectly ideal, this wouldn't be, but they aren't.



No, Richard, all the needed charge pump current is flowing through the choke into the chip via the Vcc pin and an identical copy of this current is flowing out of the chip via the GND pin back to the voltage regulator. Otherwise charge would accumulate within the MAX232 which is impossible. Filter the Vcc current and you filter the GND current to the same amount. No impedances in the GND line are needed.

Kai

List of 31 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
Resistance in the supply rails            01/01/70 00:00      
   inductor instead of resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes, and no and I think the theory is flawed            01/01/70 00:00      
         Spice?            01/01/70 00:00      
            That would probably help, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's what I said            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not in the gnd path!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well ... this normally doesn't work so well, but            01/01/70 00:00      
   If this scheme is used it would also be well to...            01/01/70 00:00      
      This does increase the supply impedance            01/01/70 00:00      
         please clarify with a simple schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            the bypass cap\'s always go between Vcc and Gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
               Which Vcc, Which gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a cap on either side of the resistor(s)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is it            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not quite ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           don't use a resistor in the GND connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                              What >good reason< could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What good reason could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Using a resistor in the GND connection...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              How would that come to pass?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why should I insert a resistor in the GND line??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Seldom andonly if it is of benefit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No disagree, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The regulator can't pull the Vcc down            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             This has nothing to do with imbalance!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Kai, I don\'t disagree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again, do not add any impedance in the GND line            01/01/70 00:00      
   tantalum capacitor across the MAX232 power pins            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's a matter of careful choice            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes they does            01/01/70 00:00      

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