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06/16/08 15:03
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#155951 - This does increase the supply impedance
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Keeping a substantial (~22uF or so) capacitance at the Vcc and Gnd leads of the MAX232, with its 1 uF cap's, will require that the cap charge and dischargethrough the resistors. Since most folks use the MAX232A or later, which use smaller cap's, I suspect the MAX232 doesn't appear often in new designs. The larger cap should deal with the periodic demands of the MAX232 without impacting the global supply. It smooths out the ripple caused by the charge pump, and if it's a bit "starved," well, it will still be adequate. RS232 doesn't need much in excess of +/- 5 Volts in most applications.

However, I like the notion of keeping the MAX232 close to the on-board regulator, if there is one, as it's probably fast enough, if it's not an LDO, to compensate for some of the MAX232-generated noise. The requirements of the serial line, using RS232, is pretty minimal, however, so I'm not going to worry about the demands of the MAX232 relative to the rest of the circuitry.

It's already been suggested that a ferrite bead might be better than just a resistor. Resistors are adequate, however, and most guys have a few of them lying about so they can at least try it. Building a trial circuit is, of course, far from designing one for production.

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TopicAuthorDate
Resistance in the supply rails            01/01/70 00:00      
   inductor instead of resistor            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes, and no and I think the theory is flawed            01/01/70 00:00      
         Spice?            01/01/70 00:00      
            That would probably help, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      That's what I said            01/01/70 00:00      
         Not in the gnd path!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well ... this normally doesn't work so well, but            01/01/70 00:00      
   If this scheme is used it would also be well to...            01/01/70 00:00      
      This does increase the supply impedance            01/01/70 00:00      
         please clarify with a simple schematic            01/01/70 00:00      
            the bypass cap\'s always go between Vcc and Gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
               Which Vcc, Which gnd            01/01/70 00:00      
                  There's a cap on either side of the resistor(s)            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is it            01/01/70 00:00      
                        Not quite ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                           don't use a resistor in the GND connection            01/01/70 00:00      
                              What >good reason< could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 What good reason could this be??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Using a resistor in the GND connection...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              How would that come to pass?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 Why should I insert a resistor in the GND line??            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    Seldom andonly if it is of benefit            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       No disagree, but ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          The regulator can't pull the Vcc down            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             This has nothing to do with imbalance!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                Kai, I don\'t disagree ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Again, do not add any impedance in the GND line            01/01/70 00:00      
   tantalum capacitor across the MAX232 power pins            01/01/70 00:00      
      It's a matter of careful choice            01/01/70 00:00      
      Yes they does            01/01/70 00:00      

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