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06/01/05 20:11
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#94203 - Collars and cuffs
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Salaam again Payam (notice how subtly I picked up on having misspelled salaam before).

Up until I bought Protel I was still using one of those $30 programs you can buy from a display rack at the local electronics parts house. I did all of my own routing by hand and would still be doing so but for one thing. I was trying to scale down a board and found that my cheap little program started getting buggy below 10 mil (that's 0.010" or 254 µm for you metric types) spaces, and at 6 or 7 mil spaces it couldn't tell that the traces weren't shorting out. Consequently I couldn't get a good ERC (Electrical Rules Check) or DRC (Design Rules Check) report. I had no choice but to upgrade.

I found the best deal on my Protel 99SE. It was an US$8000 package that I got for US$2000. If I had gotten a better deal on OrCad or PADs I wouldn't have bought the Protel. As for having a favorite, I think the best package is the one that makes the most efficient use of your time. And that is usually going to be the one you're most familiar with. I don't doubt that Protel has idiosyncracies, but so do all the others. If you went out and spent US$90,000 (that's right, ninty thousand dollars) on Mentor Graphics' top line suite, you'd still have idiosyncracies to deal with. Sometimes you will find a program (like the cheap one I used to use) with a real problem, but usually it's just a matter of trading one way of doing things for another.

Now would I go back to using DOS based OrCad? No, not even if it did have a better autorouter than the old one I used back when. The parts editor alone would stop me from going back, not to mention the fully integrated development environment. Moreover, my Protel 99SE will route a board in 30 seconds that would take the old autorouters 30 minutes (on comparable machines). No, I think I'll stick with what I have. Thanks anyway.

Now about your OT comment. I'm afraid you've stumped me. I don't know what a compact 243 is, but I'm guessing it's a car. If so, I have to tell you that moving out here to the ranch has changed quite a bit of things for me. I now drive a big Ford F150 Crew Cab (four door). A compact car would be of little use when pulling a livestock trailer full of cows, or hauling a half ton round bale of hay. Plus, the grocery store is 30 miles away, so when we go we usually buy a month's worth of groceries at a time. A small car, once again, would be found sorely wanting. But, back when I was still in Dallas I had a Porsche 944. And there is a road here, they call it the Lake Road, that winds through the woods alongside a lake between my ranch and town, and oh how I miss my Porsche when we drive that road.


List of 55 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
[OT]To DOS OrCADians            01/01/70 00:00      
   Just Becasue,,,? ? ? ? ?            01/01/70 00:00      
      Possibly            01/01/70 00:00      
         Possibly            01/01/70 00:00      
      Just because, ...?            01/01/70 00:00      
         Thanks,.....But...            01/01/70 00:00      
            US copyright <> UK copyright            01/01/70 00:00      
            Right v Legal            01/01/70 00:00      
               Interesting            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Myths & Misunderstandings            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Rights vs ownership.            01/01/70 00:00      
            Law vs justice...            01/01/70 00:00      
               freeloaders            01/01/70 00:00      
                  !freeloaders            01/01/70 00:00      
                     more so...            01/01/70 00:00      
                        it is not engineering, it's business            01/01/70 00:00      
                           re            01/01/70 00:00      
                              If it's mine, I can do what I want to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                  If it's mine, I can do what I want to            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    it is called "corporate survival"            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    need vs desire            01/01/70 00:00      
                     making all shoes on the same last            01/01/70 00:00      
               Justice?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Answer is wrong?            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Answer is right            01/01/70 00:00      
                     score answer is wrong - my guess            01/01/70 00:00      
                        relative perspectives            01/01/70 00:00      
                           geographically            01/01/70 00:00      
                              Assertions            01/01/70 00:00      
         copyright vs trademark            01/01/70 00:00      
            not here            01/01/70 00:00      
               Correction            01/01/70 00:00      
      There are times            01/01/70 00:00      
         same question            01/01/70 00:00      
            Different situation            01/01/70 00:00      
               that is on topic            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Not for this thread            01/01/70 00:00      
         Exactly my situation...?            01/01/70 00:00      
            Borland stinks            01/01/70 00:00      
               Open source            01/01/70 00:00      
   simple solution            01/01/70 00:00      
      old, pre-Windows OrCAD            01/01/70 00:00      
   BTW... any OrCADians here, after all?//            01/01/70 00:00      
      any OrCADians here, after all - yes            01/01/70 00:00      
         DOS OrCAD was 'obsoletified' on purpose            01/01/70 00:00      
            not so            01/01/70 00:00      
               Why it's gone ......            01/01/70 00:00      
                  A political decision            01/01/70 00:00      
                     A truth            01/01/70 00:00      
      Here!            01/01/70 00:00      
         Hi there!            01/01/70 00:00      
            Collars and cuffs            01/01/70 00:00      
               243            01/01/70 00:00      
                  243            01/01/70 00:00      
                     [OT]Jo            01/01/70 00:00      

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