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02/08/08 10:24
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#150462 - using a 78L05 voltage regulator IC with 220 uF cap
Responding to: ???'s previous message
Richard Erlacher said:

(1) is your oscilloscope probe properly grounded to the ground of your circuit?


yes. i dont think theres a problem there.

Richard Erlacher said:


(2) Have you got lots (one per power and one per GND of each IC and located within 1 mm of each connection) of small (10nF) bypass capacitors from power to gnd and one larger one ~4.7 uF tanatalum at the power entry to your board?


nope! wow thats a good idea. i'll try it out.thanks!
i already have a (much) larger 220uF capacitor(aluminium electrolyte. does it have to be tantalum?) between the regulated side of the voltage regulator IC and gnd.
Richard Erlacher said:

(3) Has your board got a good, low impedance ground plane throughout?

erm..no. sorry but i'm a real noob at this..when u say ground plane, u mean like a solid metallic sheet? where does that go on the circuit board?
Richard Erlacher said:

(4) Has your power supply got the capacity to provide at least 10x the maximal current your circuit demands?

yes.i'm using an 800mA supply
Richard Erlacher said:

(5) Have you tried putting a small (10 ohms) resistor in series with the power supply, before the entry capacitor?


no.
by entry capacitor, u mean the one between the regulator ic and ground ,right?
i'll try that.

Richard Erlacher said:

If your power supply has more than 5 mV of random noise or of ripple with no load, it's too noisy!

well, with no load its absolutely clean.no ripples at all.
i'm using 220uf capacitors across the voltage regulator ics and the "unregulated" side is a(quite clean by itself) 8v coming from a battery charger.

Richard Erlacher said:

If your power supply has more than 25 mV of random noise or or ripple with 10x full load, it's too noisy!

well, its waaay over 25mv with 1x load.so its noisy as hell!

Richard Erlacher said:

Be sure your power supply wires are large, not as thick as a pencil, but thicker than a pencil lead, (1.5 mm).

ok. that makes sense.


thanks a ton for the info.i'll try it out and let u know if it works.


List of 58 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
problems with edge triggering and noise            01/01/70 00:00      
   5v regulator,capacitors - elko and creamic            01/01/70 00:00      
      not likely            01/01/70 00:00      
         not true!            01/01/70 00:00      
   How much noise?            01/01/70 00:00      
      using a 78L05 voltage regulator IC with 220 uF cap            01/01/70 00:00      
         be conservative ... for now ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   First things first - Begin at the beginning            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes i agree..            01/01/70 00:00      
         photo            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well done            01/01/70 00:00      
               the "backside" :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Use Solder Wick as Braid            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is this ok?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        i found this strange looking woven wire?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Perf Board Types            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Pad-Per-Hole PTH            01/01/70 00:00      
                     How much ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        This Much            01/01/70 00:00      
                           other boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Here\'s what I prefer.            01/01/70 00:00      
            it looks quite acceptable, with caveats ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      How much noise!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Regulator problems..            01/01/70 00:00      
      sorry wrong measurements            01/01/70 00:00      
         Actuall, you were right, in part ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Different caps..            01/01/70 00:00      
      one more issue            01/01/70 00:00      
         7805            01/01/70 00:00      
            Swop the pins around !!            01/01/70 00:00      
            agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
               what about switching noise and ripple?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to RE            01/01/70 00:00      
                     This is a real disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                        numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           that's not what was asked ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I've got lots of those ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not mostly - only and who cares            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's what's before the filter that matters!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                as stated before            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you can't stop, can you            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         I love to see Erik backpedal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Better start giving a hoot            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               as stated so often, I DO give a hoot ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  as stated so often, I DO give a hoot ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     I think you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I too favour looking inside black boxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           blindly?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              Erik ... you\'re headed for a disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 If you accept datasheet blindly I cant help            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    you do not get the point, do you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I never made any such claim            01/01/70 00:00      
         gee ... that's a negative regulator ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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