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02/10/08 17:12
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#150541 - Here\'s what I prefer.
Responding to: ???'s previous message
I had these made for my own use, but this is what I like. The wiring side looks the same, with the exception that there's no gap between the edge and the ground plane. The component side plane is connected to power. The plated-through holes are tailored for 0.025" square pins, commonly used for wire-wrap (which shouldn't surpirse anyone). This makes it easy to use garden-variety ribbon-cable connectors. Unfortunately, as metric -unit parts have gradually replaced imperial unit parts on 0.100" pin-pitch, this sort of board has become less useful. Nevertheless, I have this structure built into all my prototyping boards, whether they're for the PCI or for the S-100, VME, or any other common bus, or for standalone prototyping.

The edge connector on this one is for a backplane that I commonly used in the late '70's.

http://www.8052.com/users/richard/Small%20WWB.JPG

Note, too, that there's a solder mask. My boards have, on both sides, a dry-film solder mask which is brittle and easily chipped off, thereby enabling one to solder directly to the ground or power plane at any point on the board. I then solder a 0805 or 0603 capacitor (10 or maybe 100 nF) directly to the socket pin, and to the appropriate plane, in order to get the best possible supply bypass. Obviously, the component lead lengths are thereby minimized. The fact that it's one contiguous low-impedance plane throughout the board effectively sums all the capacitance, thereby minimizing the need for a swamping cap, the effect of which is to reduce the rise and fall times on Vcc without reducing the effect of the combined capacitance.

Note, too, that there's a mask-free ground strip around the perimeter of the board, which provides a convenient place to attach instrument ground straps. The holes in the ground strip are thermally relieved, which makes it easy to solder and desolder ground pins as they're needed for attaching external references, too.

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List of 58 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
problems with edge triggering and noise            01/01/70 00:00      
   5v regulator,capacitors - elko and creamic            01/01/70 00:00      
      not likely            01/01/70 00:00      
         not true!            01/01/70 00:00      
   How much noise?            01/01/70 00:00      
      using a 78L05 voltage regulator IC with 220 uF cap            01/01/70 00:00      
         be conservative ... for now ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   First things first - Begin at the beginning            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes i agree..            01/01/70 00:00      
         photo            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well done            01/01/70 00:00      
               the "backside" :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Use Solder Wick as Braid            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is this ok?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        i found this strange looking woven wire?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Perf Board Types            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Pad-Per-Hole PTH            01/01/70 00:00      
                     How much ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        This Much            01/01/70 00:00      
                           other boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Here\'s what I prefer.            01/01/70 00:00      
            it looks quite acceptable, with caveats ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      How much noise!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Regulator problems..            01/01/70 00:00      
      sorry wrong measurements            01/01/70 00:00      
         Actuall, you were right, in part ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Different caps..            01/01/70 00:00      
      one more issue            01/01/70 00:00      
         7805            01/01/70 00:00      
            Swop the pins around !!            01/01/70 00:00      
            agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
               what about switching noise and ripple?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to RE            01/01/70 00:00      
                     This is a real disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                        numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           that's not what was asked ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I've got lots of those ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not mostly - only and who cares            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's what's before the filter that matters!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                as stated before            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you can't stop, can you            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         I love to see Erik backpedal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Better start giving a hoot            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               as stated so often, I DO give a hoot ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  as stated so often, I DO give a hoot ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     I think you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I too favour looking inside black boxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           blindly?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              Erik ... you\'re headed for a disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 If you accept datasheet blindly I cant help            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    you do not get the point, do you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I never made any such claim            01/01/70 00:00      
         gee ... that's a negative regulator ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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