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02/11/08 20:46
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#150620 - yes and no
Responding to: ???'s previous message
All I asked was information. Presumably, you have, at some point, verified that the devices you use actually meet their advertised specifications.
for simplicity reducing the answer to the PowerTrends switcher:
yes and no. What I have verified is that "the device I use" in my design works better than needed. I, as opposed to Mr. Erlacher, do not care how a device works if put in another design.

and the units that take AC input have a transformer
I have neither AC input nor transformer.

I have, however, never encountered even ONE small switcher, on the order of 1 ampere output rating or less, that was (a) actually capable of what its datasheet claimed, and (b) was satisfactory for use with any serious MCU application.
Have you tried PowerTrends?, if not, here is an opportunity for you to 'experiment'.

Now, you've stated that you use the switching regulator as a pre-regulator for your primary Vcc (3V3) and that's probably a good thing, but I'm curious what YOU have found, since you use these products all the time.
whether 3V3 is even involved (i.e. when 5V is the only voltage) I still use the PT switchers.

I don't, at least so far, care about the filtering you apply. Since you use these small switchers, I figured you could shed some light on what they actually do.
light: they (PT switchers) perform wonderfully when the output is adequately filtered. I have no idea how they perform otherwise, I would never dream of even trying, to use a switcher without adequate filtering would be sheer folly. my pi filter is 100uF electrolytic parallel with 1uF ceramic at the switcher a ferrite and 100uF electrolytic parallel with 1uF ceramic after the ferrite.

BTW, I do use switchers when practical, just not small ones. Fewer and fewer applications demand the 80 to 100-ampere multi-output supply, though, and fewer and fewer of them tolerate the switching noise ...
Re switching noise: my uCs sit next to 2 50A switchers and have no poroblem.

Erik

PS I amy have more reason to use switchers than most I have no control over my 'input voltage' it IS 18-32V DC.

List of 58 messages in thread
TopicAuthorDate
problems with edge triggering and noise            01/01/70 00:00      
   5v regulator,capacitors - elko and creamic            01/01/70 00:00      
      not likely            01/01/70 00:00      
         not true!            01/01/70 00:00      
   How much noise?            01/01/70 00:00      
      using a 78L05 voltage regulator IC with 220 uF cap            01/01/70 00:00      
         be conservative ... for now ...            01/01/70 00:00      
   First things first - Begin at the beginning            01/01/70 00:00      
      yes i agree..            01/01/70 00:00      
         photo            01/01/70 00:00      
            Well done            01/01/70 00:00      
               the "backside" :)            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Use Solder Wick as Braid            01/01/70 00:00      
                     is this ok?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        i found this strange looking woven wire?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Perf Board Types            01/01/70 00:00      
                  Pad-Per-Hole PTH            01/01/70 00:00      
                     How much ?            01/01/70 00:00      
                        This Much            01/01/70 00:00      
                           other boards            01/01/70 00:00      
                     Here\'s what I prefer.            01/01/70 00:00      
            it looks quite acceptable, with caveats ...            01/01/70 00:00      
      How much noise!            01/01/70 00:00      
   Regulator problems..            01/01/70 00:00      
      sorry wrong measurements            01/01/70 00:00      
         Actuall, you were right, in part ...            01/01/70 00:00      
            Different caps..            01/01/70 00:00      
      one more issue            01/01/70 00:00      
         7805            01/01/70 00:00      
            Swop the pins around !!            01/01/70 00:00      
            agreed            01/01/70 00:00      
               what about switching noise and ripple?            01/01/70 00:00      
                  to RE            01/01/70 00:00      
                     This is a real disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                        numbers            01/01/70 00:00      
                           that's not what was asked ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                              yes and no            01/01/70 00:00      
                                 I've got lots of those ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                    not mostly - only and who cares            01/01/70 00:00      
                                       It's what's before the filter that matters!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                          enough            01/01/70 00:00      
                                             not exactly ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                as stated before            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                   Nonsense!            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                      you can't stop, can you            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                         I love to see Erik backpedal            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                            Better start giving a hoot            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                               as stated so often, I DO give a hoot ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                  as stated so often, I DO give a hoot ...            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     I think you are right            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I too favour looking inside black boxes            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                           blindly?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                              Erik ... you\'re headed for a disappointment            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                 If you accept datasheet blindly I cant help            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                                    you do not get the point, do you?            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                     not exactly            01/01/70 00:00      
                                                                        I never made any such claim            01/01/70 00:00      
         gee ... that's a negative regulator ...            01/01/70 00:00      

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